From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Bill Findlay Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: why the pascal family of languages (Pascal, Ada, Modula-2,2,Oberon, Delphi, Algol,...) failed compared to the C family? Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2021 00:04:46 +0100 Organization: none Message-ID: <0001HW.2666F48E011A97D0700009A5738F@news.individual.net> References: <5afvagd0g4uajs1ji35v3lorkgb2kd56qu@4ax.com> <87wnrkf9pr.fsf@nightsong.com> <37c582bb-3012-4954-a26c-5d9614ac0c84n@googlegroups.com> <0001HW.2664183000DCDBDE700005E5438F@news.individual.net> <87k0nff07k.fsf@nightsong.com> <0001HW.2665B79F01080BFC700005E5438F@news.individual.net> <87fsy2febp.fsf@nightsong.com> <0001HW.2666503201136FD9700005E5438F@news.individual.net> <877djdfs8h.fsf@nightsong.com> Reply-To: findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net k0OwP6c7sBn/gJj0D0NT3Apb9HYQGT1IdpqLIeQ5DfNFae+Qns X-Orig-Path: not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:7QhG+rkQb2MRTGAPDvOh89plNcY= User-Agent: Hogwasher/5.24 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:62086 List-Id: On 1 Jun 2021, Paul Rubin wrote (in article <877djdfs8h.fsf@nightsong.com>): > Bill Findlay writes: > > > > The 20KSLOC compiler ran on a 1.5MIPS machine. > > > Yes, but 1) 20KSLOC per what unit of time, > > Ok, but that's maybe 5x slower than Turbo Pascal, which compiled 1000s > of LOC per second on machines of that class. Well that is not what emerged in the conversation I reported. The details are vague now, the gist was that the 1977 compiler on comparable machines was several times faster that Turbo. I see no point in pursuing this further. -- Bill Findlay