From: "Bill Nielsen" <bnielsen@logicon.com>
Subject: Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation
Date: 1996/10/09
Date: 1996-10-09T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01bbb57f$7fb59020$72663389@billn.logicon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: DyxtAA.Ez5@world.std.com
Gregory Aharonian <srctran@world.std.com> wrote in article
<DyxtAA.Ez5@world.std.com>...
<snip>
> Indeed the most honest admission of DoD attitudes towards programming
> languages comes from one of the DARPA projects:
>
> DARPA SB971-008
> Tools for safe, efficient mobile code in heterogenous network
> environments
> "LANGUAGES OF INTEREST ARE NOT LIMITED TO JAVA, BUT MAY
> INCLUDE OTHER FAMILIAR LANGUAGES SUCH AS C, C++ AND ML."
>
<snip>
> Greg Aharonian
> Source Translation & Optimization
>
After following up on a post I made last week ("Future of the Ada mandate")
talking to program managers involved DoD procurements, one thing is clear:
The Ada mandate (which is written into law) is being widely ignored. In
most cases, waivers are not even sought. This includes not just R&D
software, but fieldable operational software that supports military
missions for which Ada is expressly designed.
Whenever I have heard a justification, it is that extensive COTS software
will be employed in a system and COTS products are not designed to support
Ada.
Questions:
Are the conditions that led to the creation of Ada no longer valid or are
they just as valid today with new languages and variants popping up every
few months?
Is it time to overhaul the Ada mandate and face reality?
Does the Ada mandate conflict with the desire of DoD to use best commercial
practice?
Bill Nielsen
bnielsen@logicon.com
The above represents my own and not my company's opinion.
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1996-10-08 0:00 Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation Gregory Aharonian
1996-10-08 0:00 ` Gandalf
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Bill Nielsen [this message]
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1996-10-09 0:00 ` C++ Standardization (was: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) David Shochat
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-10 0:00 ` David Shochat
1996-10-20 0:00 ` Richard Riehle
1996-10-20 0:00 ` nasser
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Shayne Flint
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Shayne Flint
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Rush Kester
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-12 0:00 ` Kevin D. Heatwole
1996-10-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-13 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-13 0:00 ` Ed Falis
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Dave Wood
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Dave Wood
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Garbage Collection in Ada Thomas Kendelbacher
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation Mitch Gart
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Brian Rogoff
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Dave
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-12 0:00 ` davedave
1996-10-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-13 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Portability of Arithmetic (was: Java vs Ada 95) Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Brian R. Hanson
1996-10-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-19 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation Dale Stanbrough
1996-10-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Portability of Arithmetic (was: Java vs Ada 95) Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Lance Kibblewhite
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Alan Brain
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-20 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1996-10-24 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Mike Stark
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Mike Stark
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Why no Propagates? Matthew Heaney
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Mitch Gart
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Mark A Biggar
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1996-10-28 0:00 ` Kenneth Almquist
1996-10-29 0:00 ` Invoking parental methods (was: Java vs Ada 95) Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Kenneth Almquist
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Mitch Gart
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-07 0:00 ` David Wheeler
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Mitch Gart
1996-11-08 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-08 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-09 0:00 ` Joel VanLaven
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Brian Rogoff
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-22 0:00 ` Van Snyder
1996-11-25 0:00 ` Java vs Ada vs Inferno, floating point arithmetic Anssi Porttikivi
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Stephen Leake
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Dave
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-12 0:00 ` Dave
1996-10-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Why no Propagates? Michel Gauthier
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-10-23 0:00 ` Michel Gauthier
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Mitch Gart
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Brian R. Hanson
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Mitch Gart
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Brian R. Hanson
1996-10-20 0:00 ` nasser
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-12 0:00 ` davedave
1996-10-12 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Lars Farm
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Why no Free? Matthew Heaney
1996-10-18 0:00 ` John Herro
1996-10-19 0:00 ` John Herro
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Jon S Anthony
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Samuel T. Harris
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-29 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-29 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-29 0:00 ` Kenneth Almquist
1996-10-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Kenneth Almquist
1996-10-30 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Lars Farm
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-31 0:00 ` Kenneth Almquist
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
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1996-11-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-03 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Fast locking (Was Re: Java vs Ada 95) Geert Bosch
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1996-11-07 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-11 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-08 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1996-11-02 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Robert Dewar
1996-11-04 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-05 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-16 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-17 0:00 ` Unbounded strings (Was: Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation)) Robert A Duff
1996-11-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-19 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-24 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-25 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-19 0:00 ` Joel VanLaven
1996-11-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-21 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-24 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-11-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-25 0:00 ` Kevin D. Heatwole
1996-11-25 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-26 0:00 ` Kevin D. Heatwole
1996-11-26 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-26 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-11-27 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-29 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1996-11-29 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-26 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1996-11-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-25 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-11-20 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-11-24 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-16 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Geert Bosch
1996-11-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-17 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-19 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-11-18 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1996-11-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-11-18 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation Mike Stark
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Mitch Gart
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Mitch Gart
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Bevin R. Brett
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Ada and the DoD HLA (was: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) John Cosby
1996-10-13 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was " Hannes Haug
1996-11-03 0:00 ` Hannes Haug
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Fast locking (Was Re: Java vs Ada 95) Hannes Haug
1996-11-06 0:00 ` Hannes Haug
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation Matthew M. Lih
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Rush Kester
1996-10-21 0:00 ` C++ Standardization (was: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) David Emery
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-11 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Tarjei Jensen
1996-10-22 0:00 ` C++ Standardization (was: Once again, Ian Ward
1996-11-01 0:00 ` Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Jon S Anthony
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