From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a37:dcc:: with SMTP id 195mr32043943qkn.251.1593737497681; Thu, 02 Jul 2020 17:51:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:a19:: with SMTP id n25mr5026952oij.84.1593737496993; Thu, 02 Jul 2020 17:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!209.85.160.216.MISMATCH!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 17:51:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7cfac8d2-7b24-4a32-86fd-d6c434e75f98o@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=71.94.145.179; posting-account=84ieUgoAAAAnUS2e_T521zfeUcALYrrJ NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.94.145.179 References: <4d9fa282-830d-42f7-a3bf-ba127cb2ad06o@googlegroups.com> <8332f305-299f-45d7-9f9d-2cad924b24d8o@googlegroups.com> <9d941aca-2eb6-4f35-a346-c290c4666bdfo@googlegroups.com> <76def2a5-667c-4009-b3b9-f0cf1c13a51bo@googlegroups.com> <3b5b2360-684c-4149-8662-98b53319cf94o@googlegroups.com> <471e2c4a-192f-443d-8247-c06d56ab2092o@googlegroups.com> <9ea97f89-8912-4c59-a1c2-2aa71107902do@googlegroups.com> <7cfac8d2-7b24-4a32-86fd-d6c434e75f98o@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <0e3a7982-3631-4a8b-b69a-cd6d66dd8667o@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ada on Apple's new procesors From: Wesley Pan Injection-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 00:51:37 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:59319 List-Id: On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 2:23:30 AM UTC-7, Fabien Chouteau wrote: > It took time and effort to publish GNAT-LLVM on GitHub, and AdaCore had a= bsolutely no obligation to do so. To be honest, I am personally a bit disap= pointed to see such a long discussion on what is allegedly not possible to = do with GNAT-LLVM (and was absolutely not possible before anyway), rather t= han all the possibilities that GNAT-LLVM opens. Hi Fabien, That's a fair point. As with any compiler related development (and software= in general), I'm sure the amount of time and effort it took to create GNAT= -LLVM was significant. Aside from the licensing issue/debate, it is a reall= y great contribution to the Ada community and I hope it becomes production = quality in the very near future. AdaCore is the main (if not only) company that continues to make innovative= and very helpful tools related to Ada (e.g. libadalang and LearnAda). As y= ou pointed out, AdaCore was not obligated to make such contributions. GNAT-= LLVM could very well have been kept in closed doors to only further AdaCore= 's internal development. When news about GNAT-LLVM first came out, I for one thought it would finall= y allow people to create IOS apps in Ada and to further the adoption of the= language. Sadly, not sure that will ever happen now... -Wesley