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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: variable length strings
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:54:40 +0200
Date: 2004-10-27T16:54:40+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10z8k19febkic.16ex86io5uvwi.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ulldsl3c0.fsf@obry.org

On 27 Oct 2004 15:04:31 +0200, Pascal Obry wrote:

> Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:
> 
>> Your "certainly" is misplaced since you do not restrict your claim to
>> a particular environment or program.
> 
> I don't know all of them :) And since the goal is to develop programs that
> are *safe* (whatever it means for you) I think that such Get_Line
> implementation should be avoided. Moreover returning unconstraint objects on
> the stack uses lot of stack space (ok, this depends on the
> implementation).

But the existing Get_Line does not reaches the goal either. Normally it is
used with the buffer allocated on the stack. So it is the stack again.
Moreover, differently to the "unsafe" version you are forced to allocate
more stack than actually needed, to read the longest possible line. Where
that upper limit is quite often undeterminable: "as much as the computer
can".

> Now you are free to choose the implementation you like :) I
> will never accept such Get_Line implementation, that's all!

Huh, better to have something that works in 99% cases than to face a global
memory optimization problem. (:-))

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-27 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-21 17:52 variable lenght strings fabio de francesco
2004-10-21 21:22 ` Martin Dowie
2004-10-21 22:42 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-21 23:14   ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-22  7:38     ` Martin Krischik
2004-10-22 12:30     ` fabio de francesco
2004-10-22  7:29   ` Martin Krischik
2004-10-22 13:01     ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-24 15:46       ` Martin Krischik
2004-10-24 19:54         ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-10-24 21:30           ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-10-25  4:02             ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-10-21 23:01 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-21 23:05 ` Stephen Leake
2004-10-22  7:25 ` Martin Krischik
2004-10-22 11:11   ` Martin Dowie
2004-10-24 15:43     ` Martin Krischik
2004-10-24 17:39       ` Martin Dowie
2004-10-24 18:37       ` Björn Persson
2004-10-25  7:30         ` Martin Krischik
2004-10-26  0:06           ` Randy Brukardt
2004-10-26  1:53             ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-10-26  8:49               ` Martin Krischik
2004-10-26 11:18               ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-26 12:48                 ` variable length strings Larry Kilgallen
2004-10-26 16:11                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2004-10-26 18:50                     ` Björn Persson
2004-10-26 19:46                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-10-26  8:43             ` variable lenght strings Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-10-26 13:15               ` Martin Krischik
2004-10-26 17:37                 ` Pascal Obry
2004-10-26 18:07                   ` Hyman Rosen
2004-10-26 20:10                     ` Pascal Obry
2004-10-27 10:26                       ` variable length strings Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-10-27 10:39                         ` Pascal Obry
2004-10-27 11:47                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-10-28  7:18                           ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-10-27 11:50                         ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                         ` <uwtxcla1n.fsf@obry.Organization: LJK Software <PTzuwe3GsIg6@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2004-10-27 12:12                           ` Samuel Tardieu
2004-10-27 12:58                             ` Pascal Obry
2004-10-27 13:04                           ` Pascal Obry
2004-10-27 14:54                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2004-10-27 16:38                               ` Pascal Obry
2004-10-28  8:14                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-10-28  8:49                                   ` Pascal Obry
2004-10-28  9:06                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-10-28 16:07                                       ` Pascal Obry
2004-10-28 22:05                                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-10-28 22:41                                           ` Randy Brukardt
2004-10-29  1:11                                             ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-10-29  7:42                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-10-28 10:31                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-10-26 18:13                   ` variable lenght strings Martin Krischik
2004-10-27 12:01                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2004-10-26 17:46             ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-10-28 22:50               ` Randy Brukardt
2004-10-28 23:01                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-10-29 21:52                   ` Randy Brukardt
2004-10-29  8:48                 ` Dale Stanbrough
2004-10-29  9:11                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-10-24 18:38     ` Why these "Drop" parameters? (was: variable lenght strings) Björn Persson
2004-10-26  0:13       ` Randy Brukardt
2004-11-01  1:02         ` Why these "Drop" parameters? Björn Persson
2004-11-01 19:59           ` Randy Brukardt
2004-10-24 18:57 ` variable lenght strings Jeffrey Carter
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1989-06-04  7:03 Variable Length strings "Jonathan B. Owen"
1989-06-02 16:19 Variable Length Strings Thomas Hoyt
1989-06-02 13:26 "Jonathan B. Owen"
1989-06-06 13:19 ` Paul Warren
1989-05-30 15:39 Variable length strings Thomas Hoyt
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