From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_40,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 X-Received: by 2002:a37:a649:: with SMTP id p70mr10533075qke.225.1624994187351; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 12:16:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a25:b192:: with SMTP id h18mr42822527ybj.165.1624994187244; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 12:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.mixmin.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!209.85.160.216.MISMATCH!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 12:16:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <32bca509-dba2-42ee-88bf-1eceb488a883n@googlegroups.com> Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=47.185.200.73; posting-account=zwxLlwoAAAChLBU7oraRzNDnqQYkYbpo NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.185.200.73 References: <32bca509-dba2-42ee-88bf-1eceb488a883n@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <12aaec74-c32e-4ac3-b5a6-d8d9bdaad435n@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Exercism.io needs Ada From: Andreas ZEURCHER Injection-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:16:27 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:62297 List-Id: On Tuesday, June 29, 2021 at 8:06:58 AM UTC-5, amado...@gmail.com wrote: > Should not the first step be an evaluation of this site by an programming= master?=20 > Maybe this has been done; if so, please inform. Define programming master in a nonAda language (and then state why a progra= mming master in a nonAda language has any jurisdiction in Ada or in Ada's c= ommunity). Or did you mean that an Ada programming master would evaluate w= hether a nonAda language's presence on exercism.io? (I'm not sure that an = Ada programming master would be qualified to evaluate much depth in a nonAd= a language's presence on exercism.io: what might be a pox-on-all-all-their= -houses condemnation for another language by the high standards of an Ada-c= entric viewpoint might actually be stratospheric-achievement very very very= best practices by that other nonAda language's experts, simply by the infe= riority of the expressivity of that other nonAda language.) Would exercism= .io's exemplary (or defective) precedent in another language indicate that = the same outcome would occur with Ada or that such similarity of outcome wo= uld even be likely, as opposed to just luck of the draw of the cards off of= the stack in life's casino? To me, it seems that any Ada presence in any = programming forum/medium is highly dependent on the activism of the Ada par= ticipants, not the activism of participants in nonAda languages. For examp= le, exercises in other languages might not be able to be meaningfully borro= wed verbatim-in-translation due to perhaps not highlighting good thoughts i= n Ada to show off Ada's special sauce (e.g., narrowly-declared strong subty= ping; build-time swapping in different child packages for same-named identi= fiers to port to different-OS or different-hardware platforms). I am fairly certain that in exercism.io's worldview, each maintainer and/or= each mentor is by definition a programming master for that language, or is= expected to mature quickly into one via the daily grind of the doing. Per= haps our ambassador, Bruce Axtens, can illuminate that. For example, is Br= uce Axtens a programming master of Visual Basic .NET? And does Bruce Axten= s' invitation imply that the evaluation is already implicitly accomplished?