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From: Luke A. Guest <laguest@archeia.com>
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Subject: Re: How to get Ada to ?cross the chasm??
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Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> Maybe I'm wrong but I see Ada as an Algol/Pascal descended imperative

You know C and by extension C++ are Algol derives too, right?

> language partway between C and C++ in let's call it "automation level",

I would say Ada’s a much higher level language than C++. I’ve no idea what
you mean by "automation level.”

> whose main attractions are 1) much higher safety from type and pointer
> errors than C or C++ have, and 2) a really serious package and module
> system to help encapsulate big system components.

Also proper generics, a real built in task system which isn’t isn’t just
launching functions in threads and then Join()’ing a la Go.

You should also check out separates, no other language has those. 

> I've enough C, C++, Pascal etc. in my life to have a sense (at least
> based on the above) of what to expect from Ada.  Solid low-level code is

I still say it has the best data structuring abilities of any language.

> one of those things, ease of writing DSL's is not one ;-).  The GNAT

Tools are limited to half arsed re compiler compilers.

> environment is a huge resource hog compared to a small Lisp system
> (Janus might be smaller).  The CBSG program takes around 7 seconds to
> compile and you're proposing running such a compilation on every update,

You can’t compare parsing a language like Ada to LISP, FFS! 


>> We made the serious mistake of making allowances in the OOP design for
>> such people, and that led to several of the worst features of Ada.
> 
> Well, that was 1995 and the OOP drugs were in the water everywhere then ;-).
> Things are saner now, I think.
> 

Oh, your an OOP denier!