From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Date: 4 Aug 93 17:55:43 GMT From: agate!library.ucla.edu!ddsw1!news.kei.com!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!math.ohio- state.edu!darwin.sura.net!seas.gwu.edu!mfeldman@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Michael F eldman) Subject: Re: Ada is not a failure. Message-ID: <1993Aug4.175543.3057@seas.gwu.edu> List-Id: In article <12692.744384496@blackbird> munck@STARS.Reston.Paramax.COM writes: >In INFO-ADA Digest V93 #496, pipex!sunic!news.lth.se!dag@uunet.uu.net > (Dag Bruck) said: > >>>... C/C++ has gained entrenchment as a market "standard", and >>>actually serves as an impediment to progress through monopolization. >> >>Isn't that what the "Ada mandate" has been criticised for...? > >Oh, no. Most of the criticism of Ada seen in this forum are due >to the fact that the Ada Mandate has somehow kept Greg Aharonian >from getting a steady job. > Yo, Bob! Greg can be kinda strident, and sometimes immature in hanging on to an issue long after we've gotten the point, but I think this personal slur on him is a bit out of place, don't you think? Greg may overdo it sometimes, but his points about big bucks and small payoffs in the reuse business are well taken, and you know it. I really think we can all live without ad hominem attacks. Let's try to be decent journalist-type people here. Public authority figures like Tuttle and Paige and Mosemann are fair game if we are criticizing them for public statements or non-statements. Greg goes after them mercilessly for what he calls hypocrisy. I can think of a lot of words for the way DoD works; hypocrisy is too kind sometimes. But I'd rather stick to generic, not personal, flames. Maybe you and Greg can, too. This is embarrassing. Enough. Mike Feldman