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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Issue with GNAT GPL 2009 and GtkAda
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:14:39 +0200
Date: 2009-06-26T11:14:39+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1ux3p9a5i2l52.y3yg3rlti1wo$.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: u8wjfl658.fsf@stephe-leake.org

On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:02:27 -0400, Stephen Leake wrote:

> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> writes:
> 
>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:06:08 -0400, Stephen Leake wrote:
>>
>>> Another thought: whenever I have trouble with anonymous access types,
>>> I replace them with the corresponding named access type, and the
>>> problem goes away. That may indicate a conmpiler bug, but I've always
>>> had to much to do to find out.
>>
>> Yes, but that is not necessarily a compiler bug. It is quite simple to
>> create a serious problem to oneself:
>>
>> declare
>>    Ptr : access T := new T;
>> begin
>>    ...
>>    External_Ptr := Ptr.all'Uchecked_Access; -- Copy the pointer
>>    ...
>> end;  -- Now External_Ptr is dangling, because the object is freed.
> 
> Yes, but only because you used "Unchecked".
> 
> The problems I was refering to were compiler-time errors, or runtime
> accessibility check failures.

Unchecked_Access is used to fight runtime accessibility check. There would
be no problem if we could go without Unchecked_Access. It is meaningless
accessibility checks make programmers accustomed to Unchecked_Access. It is
meaningless treatment of "access T" as an anonymous local type, where the
main purpose of anonymous access is to be an equivalent of any access type.
It is naive to expect people (even disciplined Ada programmers) to follow
all these conceptual shifts.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



      reply	other threads:[~2009-06-26  9:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-23 21:52 Issue with GNAT GPL 2009 and GtkAda Damien Carbonne
2009-06-24  7:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-24 10:15 ` Stephen Leake
2009-06-25  9:06   ` Stephen Leake
2009-06-25  9:39     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-25 19:02       ` Damien Carbonne
2009-06-26  9:31         ` Stephen Leake
2009-06-26 11:18           ` Niklas Holsti
2009-06-26 16:29             ` Damien Carbonne
2009-06-26 17:28               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-26 19:27                 ` Damien Carbonne
2009-06-26 19:50                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-26 21:51             ` Randy Brukardt
2009-06-27 11:11               ` Stephen Leake
2009-06-27 17:04                 ` Robert A Duff
2009-06-30 11:11                   ` Stephen Leake
2009-06-30 18:10                     ` Robert A Duff
2009-06-29 22:11                 ` Randy Brukardt
2009-06-30 11:13                   ` Stephen Leake
2009-06-30 15:26                     ` Adam Beneschan
2009-06-30 15:59               ` Adam Beneschan
2009-06-30 23:11                 ` Randy Brukardt
2009-06-27  9:56             ` Stephen Leake
2009-06-26 21:03           ` Damien Carbonne
2009-06-27 11:21             ` Stephen Leake
2009-06-27 12:25               ` Damien Carbonne
2009-06-27 12:35                 ` Damien Carbonne
2009-06-29 22:15                   ` Randy Brukardt
2009-07-01 19:22                     ` Damien Carbonne
2009-06-30  0:48             ` Adam Beneschan
2009-06-30 11:18               ` Stephen Leake
2009-06-25 20:49       ` Randy Brukardt
2009-06-26  7:20         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-26  8:17           ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-06-26  8:52             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-26 21:38               ` Randy Brukardt
2009-06-27  7:47                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-29 21:59                   ` Randy Brukardt
2009-06-30  8:31                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-26 21:31           ` Randy Brukardt
2009-06-27  7:53             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-26  8:39       ` Alex R. Mosteo
2009-06-26  9:07         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-06-27  9:53           ` Stephen Leake
2009-06-26 21:40         ` Randy Brukardt
2009-06-29 10:04           ` Alex R. Mosteo
2009-06-26  9:02       ` Stephen Leake
2009-06-26  9:14         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
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