From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:ac8:568b:: with SMTP id h11mr23499585qta.197.1587996357715; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 07:05:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a4a:d355:: with SMTP id d21mr7616108oos.66.1587996357264; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 07:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!feeder1.feed.usenet.farm!feed.usenet.farm!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 07:05:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.109.61.2; posting-account=QF6XPQoAAABce2NyPxxDAaKdAkN6RgAf NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.109.61.2 References: <26e971a9-6fcc-4e4c-84ee-d74aecd5b217@googlegroups.com> <2c769c87-72f2-4107-b0bf-3846e3ae6c7a@googlegroups.com> <670160da-e66d-446f-a415-27df39d9a73f@googlegroups.com> <46d53a24-906e-4afc-a5b5-6d3235dfc658@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <23b4aa56-1fa8-42e3-a0c5-5a420431fc4a@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Image attribute (yet again) From: Jere Injection-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 14:05:57 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:58510 Date: 2020-04-27T07:05:56-07:00 List-Id: On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 9:42:39 AM UTC-4, J-P. Rosen wrote: > Le 27/04/2020 =C3=A0 14:50, Jere a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: > > Conceptionally that makes sense. I do wish they had followed other > > languages in at least providing some of the basic formatting options > > for stuff like this. Even if it was a different package (String_IO?). >=20 > There are plenty of packages that you can download that provide very > useful stuff. The difference with other languages is that Ada people > disregard anything which is not blessed by the standard. Many other > in-fashion languages have not standard at all, so users consider that > anything on the web is "available for the language". I was more referring to things that are considered part of the standard=20 language (text formatting of numbers is standard in many languages). > If you look at any of the sites that provide Ada resources links, you'll > see that Ada's situation is not that bad... It depends on what your use case is. In some areas, the situation is quite bad, in others it is not. I am hoping that as some more=20 mainstream companies like Nvidia take up Ada, the landscape will improve=20 even more. =20 >=20 > Talking about reuse vs. redesign, I recommend the paper "What price > reusability", old but fortunately available from ACM: > https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/112629.112643 >=20 > It compares the cost of rewriting with the cost of searching for > something already available, and the number of reuses necessary to break > even. It shows that for simple things (like the one we discussed above), > rewriting can be more cost-effective than searching the web for existing > stuff... >=20 Thanks! I'll take a look. =20