From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a6b:b684:: with SMTP id g126-v6mr11204273iof.16.1525281003418; Wed, 02 May 2018 10:10:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:2044:: with SMTP id n62-v6mr1477981ota.4.1525281003160; Wed, 02 May 2018 10:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.unit0.net!newsreader5.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!peer01.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer01.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!v8-v6no1019132itc.0!news-out.google.com!15-v6ni5457itg.0!nntp.google.com!f199-v6no448639itd.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 10:10:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=47.185.233.194; posting-account=zwxLlwoAAAChLBU7oraRzNDnqQYkYbpo NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.185.233.194 References: <1c73f159-eae4-4ae7-a348-03964b007197@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <2653d61a-c271-40de-833a-02f5408b3045@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: How to get Ada to ?cross the chasm?? From: "Dan'l Miller" Injection-Date: Wed, 02 May 2018 17:10:03 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 2537 X-Received-Body-CRC: 421905469 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:51923 Date: 2018-05-02T10:10:02-07:00 List-Id: On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 9:39:23 AM UTC-5, ric....@gmail.com wrote: > ... We use Ada commercially, and simply build FSF GNAT, which comes with= the full run-time exception. > It takes a bit of tinkering to get it going, but what doesn't in the open= source world? Do you ever notice any bugs in the FSF Ada compiler or its runtime (especia= lly bugs that are absent in GNAT GPL Community Edition)? Other people are saying that, yes, narrowly speaking FSF GNAT legalisticall= y is an option due to more-favorable licensing of the run-time, but they ar= e effectively compelled to copy bug fixes from GNAT GPL Community Edition's= source code to fix those bugs. When those bugs are in the runtime, then t= he only legal right one has to copy/distribute those snippets of AdaCore so= urce code is GPLv3, not the Runtime Exception or LGPL or any other nonviral= license. Hence, AdaCore's GPLv3 licensing is effectively incompatible wit= h FSF's Runtime Exception licensing until/if AdaCore itself performs the ac= t of copying those snippets to fix those bugs.