From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a24:d3ce:: with SMTP id n197-v6mr1523759itg.13.1524069931254; Wed, 18 Apr 2018 09:45:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:445c:: with SMTP id f28-v6mr178849otj.2.1524069931156; Wed, 18 Apr 2018 09:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.swapon.de!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!k65-v6no3740023ita.0!news-out.google.com!u64-v6ni6907itb.0!nntp.google.com!k65-v6no3740018ita.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 09:45:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2a02:c7d:3c35:b000:325a:3aff:fe0f:37a5; posting-account=L2-UcQkAAAAfd_BqbeNHs3XeM0jTXloS NNTP-Posting-Host: 2a02:c7d:3c35:b000:325a:3aff:fe0f:37a5 References: <1c73f159-eae4-4ae7-a348-03964b007197@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <2d02c2c2-676c-4794-96e8-31f61aedd0b8@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: How to get Ada to ?cross the chasm?? From: Lucretia Injection-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 16:45:31 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 3001 X-Received-Body-CRC: 758328563 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:51599 Date: 2018-04-18T09:45:30-07:00 List-Id: On Wednesday, 18 April 2018 13:44:04 UTC+1, Simon Clubley wrote: > Oh, and it's not "one sided", it's called giving the Ada community > a dose of cold reality. You can talk about the advantages of Ada all > you want but Ada's advantages mean nothing until the Ada compiler > situation matches the compiler situation for other languages. Yup. =20 > Any compiler which imposes the GPL on any software developed using > it would be absolutely dead on arrival in many environments especially > when compilers for other languages are available for free which do > not impose such constraints. Exactly! =20 > GPL based software development is a small subset of all the software > development out there. >=20 > Also, as far as I can see (and I am willing to be corrected here if > I am wrong) it means that you can't even write a library in Ada under > something other than the GPL if you are going to use the Community > version. As soon as you compile the library source with the Community > version, it falls under the GPL and hence any software using your > library also falls under the GPL. Exactly right. Also, people who write a library and then open it under pure= GPL are basically making sure that work will go to waste as nobody is goin= g to use that, no company's will use it, unless they can afford to pay for = the alternative license, if it actually has one. =20 > In order to create an Ada library with a LGPL or MIT licence > (for example), you have to fall back to the FSF version which > does not have that constraint. Which is also behind on patches from the maintainers, it's even the GPL ver= sion which is itself behind the Pro version. Luke.