From: Robin Vowels <robin.vowels@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Not only a language...
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2022 13:06:15 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <32c959a2-0554-42fa-92f4-2c94d9a05848n@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <R7SdnQrdDtfgKrv_nZ2dnUU7-S_NnZ2d@earthlink.com>
On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 12:55:17 PM UTC+11, 25.BX943 wrote:
> On 2/27/22 2:55 AM, Robin Vowels wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 5:24:01 PM UTC+11, 25.BX943 wrote:
> >> On 2/25/22 11:42 AM, mockturtle wrote:
> >>> Now also a GPU is named after Ada Lovelace
> >>> https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidias-next-generation-ada-lovelace-gpus-are-rumored-to-consume-scary-amounts-of-power/
> >> That's nice ... but does it have anything to do with
> >> her thoughts on computing machines ? :-)
> >>
> >> Babbage knew how to build a computer - but he was fixated
> >> on using them to create math tables for navigation and such.
> > .
> > That's how it started, but he progressed to develop
> > an "analytical engine" -- a computer, for which Ada Lovelace
> > wrote programs.
> Timeline ... she came in as he was trying to raise money
> for the 'analytical engine'. I think he'd sold exactly two
> of his 'difference engines' (to the Royal Navy I think)
> but nobody else was interested. Those were VERY complicated
> devices in and of themselves, very expensive to make.
>
> Babbage dropped in on Ada's hubby with a sales pitch. She
> sat in on his overly-tekkie description of the AE. The next
> morning she'd written a small program for the hypothetical
> device (it had one small bug). Her interest piqued, she
> struck up a closer association with Babbage (as pen-pals
> and 'biz partners' apparently, nothing naughtier was ever
> mentioned). She wrote up what amounted to sales ads for
> the thing - which tended to be half her own expositions
> on the subject.
>
> However Babbage never really did seem to see the wider
> possibilities of his AE. He still saw the use as doing
> practical math - just with more flexibility than the
> old DE.
.
That was important enough in itself, and anything more
would have been of no interest to those Babbage was trying to
interest as backers.
.
> Ada was the only one who seemed to grasp the
> more exotic implication - anything that *could* be
> represented as numbers could be manipulated/analyzed/
> transformed by such a machine.
>
> So, while Babbage is the god of computers, Lovelace is
> the goddess of modern "computing". Babbage's vision was
> severely limited by the hardware of the era - gears and
> cogs and cams. Lovelace's vision was not dependent on
> the hardware, you can easily code her programming examples
> into Python or Pascal, 'C' ... or Ada ... and they work.
>
> Alas her life was rather short - some disease, maybe cancer -
> and she spent her last couple of years totally doped-up and
> unable to pursue her ideas.
>
> In any case, they both had it right - but Babbage was the
> one thwarted by the tech. A remarkable set of people, just
> 100 years too early. The proto Woz and Jobs ???
>
> Oh, and let's not forget that Babbage got his idea for the AE
> from the Jacquard loom when he visited Jacquard's factory -
> another inspired bit of tech. And yes Jacquard had his own
> 'systems programmer' in the back room, the only guy who knew
> how the control cards should be punched - the machine was
> probably HIS idea, but he gets no credit and nobody even
> seems sure of his name ... the boss slapped HIS name on it
> and that's all anyone remembers (sound familiar ? :-)
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2022-02-25 16:42 Not only a language mockturtle
2022-02-27 6:23 ` 25.BX943
2022-02-27 7:55 ` Robin Vowels
2022-03-08 1:55 ` 25.BX943
2022-03-09 21:06 ` Robin Vowels [this message]
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