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From: dweller@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (David Weller)
Subject: Re: Ada ad in Embedded Systems Programming stinks
Date: 12 Sep 1994 07:22:04 -0500
Date: 1994-09-12T07:22:04-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <351h5c$gmt@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: DAG.94Sep12082826@bellman.control.lth.se

In article <DAG.94Sep12082826@bellman.control.lth.se>,
Dag Bruck <dag@control.lth.se> wrote:
>[Robert Dewar writes]
>R> However, the great majority of people found it completely
>R> inpenetrable, and it clearly contributed to the demise of the
>R> language.
>
>Have you seen the Draft International Standard for Modula-2?
>
>If nothing else will kill Modula-2, this document will!  More
>seriously, the Modula-2 standard mixes natural language and VDM-SL (a
>formal specification language), and I think the mix is totally
>incomprehensible.  The last statement is of course also a statement on
>my level of education.
>
>By the way, the reference manual has grown from some 30 pages to about
>600 pages, and is bigger than the DIS for Ada 9X.
>

I recall the "bragging claim" for Modula-3 was that it not exceed 50
pages.  Hmm, let's see, if we remove spaces, examples, libraries,
implementation notes, cross-references, and reduce down to a 2-point
font, we ought to be able to do that too :-)

[Actually, a bit of trivia here (maybe not), the Ada 9X RM, sans
Annexes,is actually smaller than the C++ Annotated Ref Manual 
(which I consider roughly equivalent) ]

(for those of you looking to trash C++, this isn't a good metric --
both RM's take different approaches to describing features).

the closest equivalent)

-- 
Proud (and vocal) member of Team Ada! (and Team OS/2)        ||This is not your
             Ada 9X -- It doesn't suck                       ||  father's Ada
For all sorts of interesting Ada 9X tidbits, run the command:||________________
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Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CvFI4J.D5M@world.std.com>
     [not found] ` <34ecqc$b5q@source.asset.com>
     [not found]   ` <34g5v3INN6q2@phage.cshl.org>
1994-09-06 13:46     ` Ada ad in Embedded Systems Programming stinks david.c.willett
     [not found]     ` <EACHUS.94Sep6094018@spectre.mitre.org>
1994-09-08  7:04       ` Dag Bruck
1994-09-08  9:52         ` Robert I. Eachus
1994-09-08 17:12           ` Dag Bruck
1994-09-08 17:28             ` Robert I. Eachus
1994-09-22  8:51         ` Brendan WALKER
1994-09-07 22:44   ` John Goodsen
1994-09-08  6:32     ` Keith Thompson @pulsar
     [not found] ` <1994Sep1.084046.21595@sei.cmu.edu>
     [not found]   ` <344u9q$di5@gnat.cs.nyu.edu>
     [not found]     ` <347idh$15ss@watnews1.watson.ibm.com>
     [not found]       ` <1994Sep4.092729.21408@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
1994-09-07 22:46         ` John Goodsen
1994-09-08  6:47           ` Keith Thompson @pulsar
1994-09-08  8:52             ` David Emery
1994-09-11  3:41       ` Michael M. Bishop
1994-09-11 12:20         ` Robert Dewar
1994-09-11 13:29           ` Robert Dewar
1994-09-12 14:03             ` Norman H. Cohen
1994-09-11 21:48           ` Erik Naggum
1994-09-11 23:47             ` Robert Dewar
1994-09-12  6:28               ` Dag Bruck
1994-09-12 12:22                 ` David Weller [this message]
1994-09-12 20:03               ` Erik Naggum
1994-09-12 19:16             ` Maarten Landzaat
1994-09-13 10:10               ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1994-09-17 12:07                 ` Fred McCall
1994-09-12 20:49         ` Mitch Gart
1994-10-13 10:51 Bob Wells #402
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