From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Received: by 2002:a37:9b16:: with SMTP id d22mr6790789qke.22.1633283117407; Sun, 03 Oct 2021 10:45:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a25:dbd3:: with SMTP id g202mr10127353ybf.163.1633283117069; Sun, 03 Oct 2021 10:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.misty.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 10:45:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87tv41cnnd.fsf@samuel> Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=37.128.4.18; posting-account=-iT6ZQoAAAAlqBCInAc-vB6x1soT8Jhq NNTP-Posting-Host: 37.128.4.18 References: <87tv41cnnd.fsf@samuel> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <392a6283-3336-46f4-840b-888f0a278ec7n@googlegroups.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_sdlada=2C_l=C3=B6ve=2C_and_programming_for_beginners?= From: darek Injection-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 17:45:17 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:62933 List-Id: On Saturday, 8 February 2020 at 12:41:01 UTC+1, Ludovic Brenta wrote: > Hello.=20 >=20 > At FOSDEM, my colleague Thomas Maluszycki gave a talk[1] about rapid=20 > application development in Ada. This made me think. You see, I have a=20 > 14-year-old son whom I teach programming to. He is lukewarm about it=20 > but I think it is my duty as a parent to give him basic education in=20 > this field, as computers are already everywhere and will probably govern= =20 > his live even more than ours. So I played with him with Colobot[2],=20 > taught him a little bit of Ada (with the French translation of Barnes'=20 > book for Ada 95), a little bit of ZX Spectrum BASIC, and now he's=20 > writing a Pong clone with the L=C3=96VE framework[3], in Lua[4]. This=20 > framework makes it very easy to have immediate results... but Lua lacks= =20 > strong typing and in particular range checking, and a debugger.=20 >=20 > So it occurred to me that L=C3=96VE is really a Lua binding to SDL plus a= =20 > predefined event loop, and that it would be quite easy to do something=20 > similar based on the sdlada thick binding. The goal would be to attract= =20 > teenage programmers to the language and to programming in general.=20 > Possibly on a Raspberry Pi. I'd be willing to make a Debian package for= =20 > it. What do you think?=20 >=20 > [1] https://fosdem.org/2020/schedule/event/ada_rad/=20 > [2] http://colobot.info/=20 > [3] http://love2d.org/=20 > [4] https://www.lua.org/=20 >=20 > --=20 > Ludovic Brenta.=20 > The partners leverage consumer-facing potentials. Hi Ludovic, there could be an alternative for teaching kids programming. Have a look = at Object Oriented Turing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_(programmin= g_language)). Strong typed, with a simple syntax, and powerful constructs. The language= was used at University of Toronto, and in high schools in Ontario.=20 The only drawback is that the system is no longer maintained.=20 - Object Oriented Turing Reference: http://compsci.ca/holtsoft/OOTRef.pdf - Introduction to Programming in Turing: http://compsci.ca/holtsoft/IPT.pdf - The environment: http://tristan.hume.ca/openturing/ - ... and more here ... http://compsci.ca/holtsoft/ Regards, Darek