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From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" <ve3wwg@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: stupid question: how can I finish a program?
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:17:51 -0400
Date: 2002-08-29T15:17:51-04:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D6E735F.2080400@cogeco.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: MN6naJHBaAtm@eisner.encompasserve.org

Larry Kilgallen wrote:
> In article <3D6E507E.7010805@cogeco.ca>, "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" <ve3wwg@cogeco.ca> writes:
> 
> 
>>Even in "proper O/S" there are occaisions where cleanup is needed,
>>but not automatically done by the O/S. Here are 3 examples of
>>this, that can happen on [pick your] UNIX:
>>
>>   - Allocated _SHARED_ memory
>>   - Created message queues (IPC)
>>   - Create semaphores
>>
>>The reason these are not automatically cleaned up by the O/S is that
>>sometimes you want them to persist beyond the creating process'
>>lifetime (because they are shared by other processes).
> 
> VMS tends toward making those go away when the last accessing program
> exists.  At least for the first one there is an option to make it really
> permanent, but I don't think I have ever really wanted that.

UNIX does support the idea of a SEM_UNDO operation, where semaphores
are "undone" if the process is blown away. However, even that is
not necessarily the right thing to do (do you want to unlock a botched
shared memory region and hope for the best?)

>>This depends upon the application designer (not the O/S). The temp file
>>is indeed automatically cleaned up by the O/S if the application writer
>>uses the correct calls or does it correctly himself.
> 
> On top of all those other requirements, you want correct programming ?

Is there any other kind of Ada programmer? ;-)

-- 
Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
http://home.cogeco.ca/~ve3wwg




  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-29 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2002-08-13 14:37 ` stupid question: how can I finish a program? chris.danx
2002-08-13 23:53   ` Robert C. Leif
2002-08-14  2:07     ` Wes Groleau
2002-08-14  5:53       ` Robert C. Leif
2002-08-14 13:30         ` Wes Groleau
2002-08-14 13:56       ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-17 15:58         ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-14 19:18       ` Simon Wright
2002-08-15 14:02         ` Wes Groleau
2002-08-15  1:47       ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-15  5:14         ` Michael Bode
2002-08-17 14:28           ` Alfred Hilscher
2002-08-15  5:17         ` tmoran
2002-08-15 18:41           ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-14 13:53     ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-15 17:39       ` tmoran
2002-08-16 13:46         ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-17 14:26           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-22 19:16           ` tmoran
2002-08-22 20:54             ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-25  2:22       ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-26 15:59         ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-27 21:59         ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-28 20:40           ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-28 13:59             ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-28 16:55               ` Darren New
2002-08-28 18:36                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-28 22:22                 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-28 22:30                   ` Darren New
2002-08-28 23:16                     ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-29 16:49                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 18:55                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-29 19:17                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG [this message]
2002-08-30  8:09                         ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-08-31 20:39                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 16:35                   ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2002-08-29 22:48               ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-29 15:18                 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-30  4:29                   ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-29 16:53                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 19:03                     ` Robert C. Leif
2002-08-29 19:25                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 20:42                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-29 20:22                         ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-30 20:59                           ` Simon Wright
2002-08-28 14:33             ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-28 22:15               ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-29 15:30                 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-29 22:16               ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-29 13:17                 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-29 19:32                   ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-31  2:40                   ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-31  0:10                     ` Toshitaka Kumano
2002-09-02 21:02                       ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-29 16:59                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 18:26                   ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-13 14:38 ` David C. Hoos
2002-08-13 20:08   ` Adam Beneschan
2002-08-14  6:41 ` Emil Moholth
2002-08-14 14:00   ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-14  7:37 ` Martin Dowie
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