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From: Richard Riehle <richard@adaworks.com>
Subject: Re: Bye-bye Ada ? (Ada95 Wholesale Changes?)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:09:36 -0800
Date: 2003-02-16T21:01:02+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E4FFE10.CD0B26A0@adaworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 0yH1a.19068$F25.2303@nwrddc02.gnilink.net

OK.  I realize that there is some difference between C++ practice
and what is technically permitted by the language and allowed by
some compilers.    I also note the advice given by various authors
about this kind of thing, many of whom recommend a very conservative
approach since not all compilers behave in the same way.

And after reading all the postings, it seems to me that the Ada model
is still simpler, easier to understand, and more straightforward than
the rather confusing set of rules that characterize C++ inline functions.

Thanks,

Richard Riehle

========================================================

Hyman Rosen wrote:

> Richard Riehle wrote:
> > 1) Would you care to comment on why this is typical practice.
>
> Fewer characters to type, of course. Much less thinking involved.
>
> > 2) Can one declare a function as inline, or must one include
> >      its full definition when it is made inline?
>
> The full definition must appear in any translation unit which
> calls it. Inline is applied to definitions rather than declarations,
> generally; there's not much point to doing otherwise.
>
> > 3) In Ada, the equivalent of a declaration can be made inline, in
> >     the specification.    I believe, if I am reading Stroustrup correctly,
> >     and, yes, it seems to be typical practice,  any declaration of an
> >     inline function (as inline) must also be a definition.   If that inline
> >     function is declared anywhere in the source code, it must be a
> >     full definition.
>
> You may declare a function to be inline without providing a definition
> for it. But any translation unit which uses the function must contain
> the definition. (A translation unit is what you get after the preprocessor
> has finished doing its work - all the #include files have been merged.)
>
> This all happens as a consequence of C and C++ never having had a module
> or package system that would allow the compiler to seek out a separate
> file which holds the definition. It's possible to bolt on that sort of
> thing; I believe Sun's C++ compilers have such a feature.







  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-16 21:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-31 16:19 Bye-bye Ada ? Wes Groleau
2003-01-31 17:22 ` chris.danx
2003-01-31 19:00   ` Wes Groleau
2003-02-01 14:29     ` Marin David Condic
2003-02-02 22:24       ` chris.danx
2003-02-03 13:20         ` Marin David Condic
2003-02-03 17:26           ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-04 13:22             ` Marin David Condic
2003-02-06  4:23               ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-06 13:03                 ` Marin David Condic
2003-02-07  9:27                   ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-02-07 12:37                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-02-07  0:28                 ` P S Norby
2003-02-07  3:33                   ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-08  5:51                   ` AG
2003-02-04 16:25             ` Robert C. Leif
2003-02-01 17:40     ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-02-01 18:51       ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-02-02 14:11         ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-02-01 19:54       ` Jan-Uwe Finck
2003-02-02 15:19         ` Steffen Huber
2003-02-02 15:17       ` Steffen Huber
2003-02-03 17:05         ` Alfred Hilscher
2003-02-03 17:48           ` Steffen Huber
2003-01-31 17:58 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-01-31 22:13   ` Preben Randhol
2003-02-01 23:25     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-01 14:34   ` Marin David Condic
2003-01-31 20:52 ` David Marceau
2003-02-01  7:16   ` John R. Strohm
2003-02-01 19:25     ` David Marceau
2003-02-01 20:13       ` Ada job opportunity posted at THALES in Ottawa Citizen Today David Marceau
2003-02-01 20:16     ` Bye-bye Ada ? Vinzent Hoefler
2003-01-31 22:17 ` Preben Randhol
2003-02-01  7:48 ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-01 23:31   ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-03 17:25     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-02-03 17:49       ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-04  0:19         ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-02-04 16:32           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-04 17:59             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-02-04 16:30         ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-02-04 16:41           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-04 16:54       ` Kevin Cline
2003-02-04 18:00         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-02-05  7:12         ` Karel Miklav
2003-02-05  5:26     ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-05 15:07       ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-06 18:14         ` Bye-bye Ada ? (Ada95 Wholesale Changes?) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-02-06 18:51           ` Robert Spooner
2003-02-06 23:00           ` Jerry Petrey
2003-02-07  1:21             ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-02-07  3:53           ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-07  4:35             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-07 18:25               ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-08  5:51                 ` Kevin Cline
2003-02-08  6:49                   ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-09 11:47                     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-10  5:20                       ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-10  6:21                         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-16 21:09                           ` Richard Riehle [this message]
2003-02-20  3:53                             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-12 19:04                     ` Martin Krischik
2003-02-13 17:27                       ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-15 11:56                         ` Martin Krischik
2003-02-20  4:08                           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-23 13:37                             ` Martin Krischik
2003-02-24 17:00                               ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-26 19:57                                 ` Martin Krischik
2003-02-15 15:43                         ` Martin Krischik
2003-02-20  4:03                           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-07  6:28             ` K
2003-02-07  6:58               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-02-07  7:17           ` K
2003-02-07  8:57           ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-02-07  9:22           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-02-01 14:24 ` Bye-bye Ada ? Marin David Condic
2003-02-02  9:51 ` Anders Wirzenius
2003-02-04 19:26   ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-02-06 19:12 Bye-bye Ada ? (Ada95 Wholesale Changes?) Beard, Frank Randolph CIV
2003-02-10 17:16 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-02-10 18:00   ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-10 18:32     ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-02-06 22:16 David Botton
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