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From: dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar)
Subject: Re: Array mappings
Date: 17 Dec 1994 12:41:54 -0500
Date: 1994-12-17T12:41:54-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3cv7t2$no2@gnat.cs.nyu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3csnqi$3ee@felix.seas.gwu.edu

Mike, you sure have posted lots of messages on the Fortran array issue. My
own feeling is that this is a nice feature, but not particularly critical.
Having to reorder array subscripts is not exactly the biggest barrier to
the use of Ada arrays in Fortran programs! You ask if vendors explicitly
ran around trying to "dig up" this market. I doubt it. Instead they probably
assumed that this was not a major issue, because no customers bought it up.
As for it being a possibly lucrative market, I VERY much doubt it. THere
were much more important targets of opportunity than this one.

It is true that it would not have been very hard to implement, which just
goes to show the estimate of value placed on this feature by vendors, and
personally I think that this was a reasonable estimate.

Ada 9X requires this support. Whether that requirement is justified
remains to be seen. That will really show whether Mike is right. If we
see a huge army of Fortran programmers suddenly saying "great, now that
I can write my subscripts the "right" way round in Ada 95, I will switch
to using Ada", then we will know that Mike was rigt, and that Ada vendors
missed an important opportunity.

Note: Many Fortran programmers are moving to C, C doesn't have any help
for Fortran array ordering, and I never heard of this being an adoption
barrier.




  parent reply	other threads:[~1994-12-17 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1994-12-06 13:06 Why don't large companies use Ada? Paige Vinall
1994-12-07 14:15 ` Norman H. Cohen
1994-12-10 20:55   ` Array mappings Michael Feldman
1994-12-13 15:01     ` Norman H. Cohen
1994-12-16 18:55       ` Michael Feldman
1994-12-17  0:43         ` Keith Thompson
1994-12-17 17:17           ` Reaching traditional engineering, was: " Michael Feldman
1994-12-18  1:34             ` Robert Dewar
1994-12-19  2:11               ` Michael Feldman
1994-12-21 16:17               ` Kevin Weise
1994-12-21 13:29                 ` David Emery
1994-12-22  2:40                   ` Michael Feldman
1994-12-22 10:20                 ` Reaching traditional engineering Introspect Technologies
1994-12-22 20:49                   ` Richard Riehle
1994-12-23  9:09                   ` Peter Hermann
1994-12-27  3:37                 ` Reaching traditional engineering, was: Array mappings Richard G. Hash
1994-12-17 20:42           ` Rolf Ebert
1994-12-19  2:19             ` Michael Feldman
1994-12-19  3:46               ` Robert Dewar
1994-12-19  5:53               ` Mark S. Hathaway
1994-12-19 14:27                 ` Robert Dewar
1994-12-22 17:08               ` Richard G. Hash
1995-01-03  3:26                 ` Fred McCall
1994-12-17 17:41         ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1994-12-18  0:03           ` Dik T. Winter
1994-12-19  2:08             ` Michael Feldman
1994-12-19  2:01           ` Michael Feldman
1994-12-19  3:41             ` Robert Dewar
1994-12-20  3:23               ` Michael Feldman
1994-12-20 14:09                 ` Robert Dewar
1994-12-19 19:10             ` Matt Kennel
1994-12-09  2:31 ` Why don't large companies use Ada? Michael Feldman
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