From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a24:1a51:: with SMTP id 78-v6mr318857iti.19.1530611297584; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 02:48:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aca:1a18:: with SMTP id a24-v6mr3420305oia.5.1530611297423; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 02:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.uzoreto.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!u78-v6no488588itb.0!news-out.google.com!z3-v6ni631iti.0!nntp.google.com!u78-v6no488586itb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 02:48:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87efglmm3w.fsf@nightsong.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=194.39.218.10; posting-account=3cDqWgoAAAAZXc8D3pDqwa77IryJ2nnY NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.39.218.10 References: <856189aa-fa00-4960-929e-174f352310ad@googlegroups.com> <2718c8d4-5f35-4fd8-a1aa-1e60069a7a5d@googlegroups.com> <39fce60c-9f56-42fb-b679-fa08810b00ee@googlegroups.com> <47d4ddac-8dae-426c-9096-88d032c59cb0@googlegroups.com> <87efglmm3w.fsf@nightsong.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3dc496d4-dfaf-41c3-832f-7ee8a7ab46e0@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Teaching C/C++ from Ada perspective? From: Marius Amado-Alves Injection-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 09:48:17 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:53523 Date: 2018-07-03T02:48:17-07:00 List-Id: "...just use a good subset that leaves the crap behind... let the gurus rea= ch a consensus on best practices, then follow those" (Paul) You are right, that works in a present day academic setting, which is the t= opic. Thanks for straighten me up. I apologize for the entropic view from h= istory, and from industry where this would only works as long you have a re= al guru around (the one in a million programmer), or Stroustrup, Alexandres= cu, and Meyers agree, the rest of the team are unspoiled beginners, and the= re's no legacy code (pre C++11/14), or else plenty of time to refactor. (Still the bottom line remains that there's nothing to transpose from Ada.)