From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,c406e0c4a6eb74ed X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!proxad.net!feeder2-1.proxad.net!news10-e.free.fr!not-for-mail Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 00:55:47 +0200 From: Lionel Draghi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fr-FR; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040820 Debian/1.7.2-4 X-Accept-Language: en-us, it MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: ADA Popularity Discussion Request References: <49dc98cf.0408110556.18ae7df@posting.google.com> <413e2fbd$0$30586$626a14ce@news.free.fr> <4140b5cc$0$17701$626a14ce@news.free.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <4144d3ee$0$8754$626a14ce@news.free.fr> Organization: Guest of ProXad - France NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Sep 2004 00:55:42 MEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.64.15.8 X-Trace: 1095029742 news10-e.free.fr 8754 82.64.15.8:59882 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:3638 Date: 2004-09-13T00:55:42+02:00 List-Id: ... >>>Anyway, I enter in this thread because of the claim that typing has much >>>less value than test-first. > It is _static_ typing that has much less value, not typing! >>>I still wait for any illustration of this claim. >>>(and I feel that I will wait for a long time) >> >>I don't think you will wait all that long. Test-first development is >>no longer a radical idea. Increasing numbers of serious software >>development shops, like SABRE, are getting good results from >>test-first development. > > Agreed. With what? This is not at all related to my point. I am not waiting for whatever about XP development, not even success stories, because we already have this at work. I am waiting for any point explaining how Agile methods raise static typing more or less obsolete. There is no relation between those: you could have raise all your points before XP creation, all this thread is just a (usual) discussion about typing. -- Lionel Draghi