From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a24:25d4:: with SMTP id g203-v6mr12460888itg.37.1524704692919; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 18:04:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:3051:: with SMTP id w17-v6mr2006683otd.11.1524704692836; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 18:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!maths.tcd.ie!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!168.235.88.217.MISMATCH!feeder.erje.net!2.us.feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!k65-v6no5122516ita.0!news-out.google.com!15-v6ni5899itg.0!nntp.google.com!f63-v6no5122176itc.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 18:04:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=47.185.233.194; posting-account=zwxLlwoAAAChLBU7oraRzNDnqQYkYbpo NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.185.233.194 References: <1c73f159-eae4-4ae7-a348-03964b007197@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <487851e9-69aa-43be-a3a7-39eaf9687fc0@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: How to get Ada to ?cross the chasm?? From: "Dan'l Miller" Injection-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 01:04:52 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 2981 X-Received-Body-CRC: 2249536568 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:51717 Date: 2018-04-25T18:04:52-07:00 List-Id: On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 6:41:07 PM UTC-5, Randy Brukardt wrote: > "invalid" wrote in message=20 > news:slrnpdpiv9.ntv.address@is.invalid... > > On 2018-04-20, briot.emmanuel wrote: > ... > > And there are not any other affordable compilers for Ada for people who > > _are_ willing to pay a reasonable price. Intel sells pretty good Fortra= n=20 > > and > > C/C++ compilers for about USD 1.250. >=20 > What's affordable? The Janus/Ada Personal Edition is still $195 (includin= g 3=20 > months of support). I am willing to pay $195 annually for Ada2012 per target-OS per target-ISA = for all of the following: 1) 64-bit Apple ARM for iOS (e.g., MacOS-hosted cross-compiler), which woul= d require an LLVM-backend to permit the proper files to be generated to per= mit using LLVM's debugger on Apple iDevices) 2) 64-bit AMD64 for MacOS 3) 64-bit AMD64 for Windows 10 4) 64-bit Samsung Exynos ARM for Android native-processor (not JVM) (e.g., = either Linux- or MacOS- or Windows10-hosted cross-compiler) All or nothing on those 4, because I am interested in portability of Ada to= put an end to needing to write C# or C++/CX on Windows 10, Swift or Object= ive-C(++) on iOS & MacOS, and Java or Kotlin on Android. Where do I send m= y four times $195 =3D $780 check today? Indeed, I am willing to double the money to support 32-bit on those platfor= ms, even though increasingly 32-bit legacy app support is unfortunately bec= oming a moot point on some of those platforms. So any Ada compilers availa= ble for all 8 {OS, ISA} targets for $1560?