From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 X-Received: by 2002:a37:503:: with SMTP id 3mr3967465qkf.417.1623323606569; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 04:13:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a25:cb48:: with SMTP id b69mr6732668ybg.173.1623323606337; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 04:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!209.85.160.216.MISMATCH!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 04:13:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=87.88.29.208; posting-account=6yLzewoAAABoisbSsCJH1SPMc9UrfXBH NNTP-Posting-Host: 87.88.29.208 References: <87v96n2e2h.fsf@nightsong.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <54c3041a-b68f-4719-88bc-d2a1587a2d2cn@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Adacore Blog - Going Beyond Ada 2022 From: Emmanuel Briot Injection-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 11:13:26 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:62161 List-Id: I must admit I do not see the grudge here. As I understand it, the goal is indeed to test proposals in practice, befor= e they make it to the standard. There has been a number of evolution to the= language that are not so convenient to use, for instance, or not flexible = enough. Having a prototype implementation for people to play with is a nice= idea (and what most other languages do in practice). AdaCore does not propose to control the language. As far as I can tell, the= se prototypes (like early implementation of what is already in Ada 2020) ar= e generally controlled via the -gnatX switch. If you do not use that, then = you do not have access to those new proposals either. This is akin to implementing some pre-processing tool (for instance using A= SIS or libadalang) to test those prototypes, except it might be easier to d= o directly in the compiler for AdaCore. But nothing prevents anyone from wr= iting such a preprocess to test their own proposals. The language remains controlled by the standard, and although there is a la= rge number of AdaCore employees in the ARG, that's not all of it. The ada-c= omment list has another purpose that discussing tentative evolution to the = language (and email doesn't lend itself too well to that purpose anyway).