From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a02:2341:: with SMTP id u62-v6mr10989369jau.34.1531224415975; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 05:06:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a54:4e94:: with SMTP id c20-v6mr5845726oiy.5.1531224415778; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 05:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed9.news.xs4all.nl!85.12.16.68.MISMATCH!peer01.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer01.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!d7-v6no7427583itj.0!news-out.google.com!l67-v6ni7914itl.0!nntp.google.com!d7-v6no7427579itj.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 05:06:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87fu0rlmew.fsf@adaheads.home> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=47.185.195.62; posting-account=zwxLlwoAAAChLBU7oraRzNDnqQYkYbpo NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.185.195.62 References: <1c73f159-eae4-4ae7-a348-03964b007197@googlegroups.com> <878t9nemrl.fsf@nightsong.com> <51e6f75e-6c39-49c5-949e-bf92a9dbf96a@googlegroups.com> <3c4cd2b3-6b1f-41b4-a889-269689239612@googlegroups.com> <87fu0rlmew.fsf@adaheads.home> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <56f5fa2f-7790-4208-bd13-ddb08fc09a1a@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: How to get Ada to ?cross the chasm?? From: "Dan'l Miller" Injection-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 12:06:55 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 3278 X-Received-Body-CRC: 674295155 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:53752 Date: 2018-07-10T05:06:55-07:00 List-Id: On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 11:55:36 PM UTC-5, Jacob Sparre Andersen wrote: > Lucretia writes: > > On Tuesday, 10 July 2018 03:41:40 UTC+1, toanp...@gmail.com wrote: >=20 > >> Sure. I think GNAT GPL is major obstacle for small team/start-up to > >> adopt ADA. > > > > It certainly is and has been proven to be so. >=20 > Why not spend time and resources promoting FSF GNAT builds, instead of > complaining about an AdaCore GNAT build? >=20 > If you remembered to link to where people can get a FSF GNAT build[1] eve= ry > time you respond to a discussion about to the license of GNAT GPL/GNAT > CE, people would be much more likely to notice that they don't have to > use GNAT GPL/GNAT CE. >=20 > Greetings, >=20 > Jacob >=20 > [1] FSF GNAT 8 is included in Debian, Fedora and Ubuntu. FSF GNAT 7 is > packaged for Windows in MSys (http://www.msys2.org/). Hmmm, what an interesting microstrategy. As long as this is just mentionin= g textual proper-noun names, not deemed as excessive =E2=80=98advertising= =E2=80=99 via spammy URLs, this is an excellent idea=E2=80=94not just on c.= l.a, but everywhere: StackOverflow, Slashdot, Reddit, and so forth. A corollary is: What can be done to FSF GNAT to make it that no one would = even =E2=80=A2want=E2=80=A2 to download AdaCore's GPL Community Editions at= all, ever, in the first place? I.e., what is deficient in FSF GNAT that, = if improved, would cause FSF GNAT to practically eclipse all desire through= out humankind for AdaCore's GPL Community Editions to the point where peopl= e only talk of FSF GNAT as the premier brandname, never of AdaCore's GPL Co= mmunity Editions?