From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a24:a49:: with SMTP id 70-v6mr1510636itw.18.1526042793166; Fri, 11 May 2018 05:46:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:4509:: with SMTP id w9-v6mr260933ote.10.1526042793023; Fri, 11 May 2018 05:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.linkpendium.com!news.linkpendium.com!news.snarked.org!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!u74-v6no456858itb.0!news-out.google.com!f20-v6ni418itd.0!nntp.google.com!u74-v6no456856itb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 05:46:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87tvrfyvha.fsf@nightsong.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2a02:c7d:3c35:b000:325a:3aff:fe0f:37a5; posting-account=L2-UcQkAAAAfd_BqbeNHs3XeM0jTXloS NNTP-Posting-Host: 2a02:c7d:3c35:b000:325a:3aff:fe0f:37a5 References: <1c73f159-eae4-4ae7-a348-03964b007197@googlegroups.com> <87zi1gz3kl.fsf@nightsong.com> <878t8x7k1j.fsf@nightsong.com> <87k1sg2qux.fsf@nightsong.com> <87h8njmk4r.fsf@nightsong.com> <87po27fbv9.fsf@nightsong.com> <87h8nhwhef.fsf@nightsong.com> <87d0y4zf7d.fsf@nightsong.com> <87tvrfyvha.fsf@nightsong.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <5dd41726-9f61-4eef-b872-f87bcf6c84ae@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: How to get Ada to ?cross the chasm?? From: Lucretia Injection-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 12:46:33 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:52268 Date: 2018-05-11T05:46:32-07:00 List-Id: On Thursday, 10 May 2018 23:52:18 UTC+1, Paul Rubin wrote: > "Randy Brukardt" writes: > > No wonder you don't understand: Ada 95 had none of the container stuff or > > other features that reduces the memory management burden without using GC. > > At a minimum, you need to consider Ada 2005, but the most recent Ada is > > best. > > Ah, ok, I was also going by > > http://cowlark.com/2014-04-27-ada/index.html I wouldn't, that uses some weird syntax, it's like he's a C programmer doing Ada. > which claims Ada has no standardized way to release allocated memory (so > each implementation had its own way). If you can suggest a good place > to read about the current standard method I'd appreciate it. Bullshit. http://www.ada-auth.org/standards/rm12_w_tc1/html/RM-13-11-2.html > To be fair, the Pascal-like subset I looked into first was SPARK (I read > John Barnes' book about it) since SPARK was the aspect of Ada that at > first interested me the most. I'd be interested to know how the Ada > 2012 containers differ from C++ STL containers. As mentioned elsewhere > I believe that the same guy (Alex Stepanov) had a hand in the design of > both. Your previous post about him says he worked on *a* container library for Ada83 (it was in 1989) and he even says he never touched Ada much since then. So, no, he didn't have a hand in the current implementation. I think it was Matthew Heaney who provided them, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.ada/luv71Ex0CDc to the ARG for standardising, IIRC. Luke.