From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a24:674f:: with SMTP id u76-v6mr2152471itc.36.1530770316192; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 22:58:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aca:c744:: with SMTP id x65-v6mr1070234oif.2.1530770315846; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 22:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!85.12.16.70.MISMATCH!peer03.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer03.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!d7-v6no2365486itj.0!news-out.google.com!z3-v6ni2412iti.0!nntp.google.com!u78-v6no2348808itb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 22:58:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8d1667cb-03dc-4ab3-b521-cd82ab39f36c@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=194.9.244.34; posting-account=bMuEOQoAAACUUr_ghL3RBIi5neBZ5w_S NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.9.244.34 References: <856189aa-fa00-4960-929e-174f352310ad@googlegroups.com> <2718c8d4-5f35-4fd8-a1aa-1e60069a7a5d@googlegroups.com> <39fce60c-9f56-42fb-b679-fa08810b00ee@googlegroups.com> <3701bf07-89a5-4cb0-a704-5aebb589ca79@googlegroups.com> <2f5e4ce0-94e8-4b94-9da7-045ec90a9b22@googlegroups.com> <18554067-1382-4b43-a832-2d27aa5117d7@googlegroups.com> <8dc19505-b68a-403c-a164-f1de1864f3f1@googlegroups.com> <559657f8-bbf4-4a70-9449-f85bc98d6c6b@googlegroups.com> <590d4672-4aef-42a5-823c-57ccd291115a@googlegroups.com> <746e96b9-d5a3-449a-a053-f7f7788a6619@googlegroups.com> <8d1667cb-03dc-4ab3-b521-cd82ab39f36c@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <77529b0d-b851-4136-82d0-d8bc3832ce12@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Teaching C/C++ from Ada perspective? From: Maciej Sobczak Injection-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 05:58:36 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 3399 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3113607948 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:53638 Date: 2018-07-04T22:58:35-07:00 List-Id: > > I'm glad that we have, in practice, exhausted this discussion. >=20 > As soon as the play-by-play sports-announcer yells, =E2=80=9CscorrrrrrRRR= RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrr.=E2=80=9D = for Ada's goal, Maciej declares the game over and takes his soccer ball hom= e, refusing to recognize the point. Sigh... > Btw, C++ as currently defined =E2=80=A2cannot ever=E2=80=A2 score that po= int, whereas Ada can bring back R1000 at any time=E2=80=94all we need is $6= million. Does this price cover the development of all remaining Ada95, Ada2005 and A= da2012 language features? Is this your final recommendation to the OP, who needs to run a C++ course = at the university? > I reiterate: Maciej, btw, which precise version of GNAT are you utilizin= g? 7.3.0 Do you think that some other GNAT version implements all the hypothetical f= eatures that will ultimately solve all 852 pages of problems that only C++ = has? By saying that we have exhausted the discussion I do not mean that I "refus= e to recognize the point". I mean that after so many posts you have failed = to make any. --=20 Maciej Sobczak * http://www.inspirel.com