From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a02:5c01:: with SMTP id q1-v6mr1801052jab.31.1530749525408; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 17:12:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a54:4e94:: with SMTP id c20-v6mr845965oiy.5.1530749525210; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 17:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!paganini.bofh.team!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!u78-v6no2154467itb.0!news-out.google.com!z3-v6ni2219iti.0!nntp.google.com!u78-v6no2154466itb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 17:12:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=47.185.195.62; posting-account=zwxLlwoAAAChLBU7oraRzNDnqQYkYbpo NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.185.195.62 References: <70c11a71-3832-4f57-8127-f3f1c48a052f@googlegroups.com> <887212304.552080112.848502.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <87muvan83x.fsf@adaheads.home> <1449870001.552246132.581310.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <5de5f768-40bf-4518-a647-22788658de74@googlegroups.com> <64454862-b293-4ed7-9c3e-c8a1252344db@googlegroups.com> <0ebf920a-61fa-47e8-a34f-54da2e143bb6@googlegroups.com> <6af9d974-b2b4-4ab9-82e6-690ffaee2901@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <795161eb-b58c-4146-9721-9b553039868a@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Strange crash on custom iterator From: "Dan'l Miller" Injection-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 00:12:05 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:53628 Date: 2018-07-04T17:12:04-07:00 List-Id: On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 5:04:13 PM UTC-5, Shark8 wrote: > On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 2:05:17 PM UTC-6, Lucretia wrote: > > On Wednesday, 4 July 2018 20:53:21 UTC+1, Shark8 wrote: > >=20 > > > But let's take a step backward; what about displaying the text? One c= ertainly could argue that Unicode is a good solution in this arena, after a= ll havng the ability to encode all of human language is it's stated design-= goal, so surely it must be well-suited to that, right? > >=20 > > You're wrong. Unicode is not about displaying text, it even says that i= n the spec, it's about representation. Stop trying to force Unicode into Li= sp or Forth or whatever to try to add meaning to text. >=20 > I didn't say it *was*, I used display as an example. > But you bring up a good point: it's a terrible representation, for all th= at I've said, and more. Shark8, it seems that your criticisms were that instead of representing the= Hebrew letters, we ought to represent the whole Hebrew word. Isn't that a= n entirely different problem-space higher in the food chain? My qualms with Unicode is that it gets into far more topics than character = encoding and then for some odd reason refuses to standardize single-codepoi= nt representation of some language's letters (and then for some even odder = reason standardizes offbeat emojis far beyond the original Japanese single-= codepoint representations of old 1980s emoticons). I guess all that billio= n codepoints beyond BMP is reserved for all the extra-terrestrial space-ali= en languages, not for us mere mortals on planet Earth. Poor old Lithuanian= needs to not only stand in line behind all the Western European nations (a= nd their former colonies) but also poor old Lithuanian needs to stand in li= ne behind E.T. Shark8, what would be the better solution for character-encoding itself? (= not whole words)