From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:238:: with SMTP id u24mr24566763qkm.168.1593595409929; Wed, 01 Jul 2020 02:23:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:66cb:: with SMTP id t11mr9858670otm.82.1593595409600; Wed, 01 Jul 2020 02:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!209.85.160.216.MISMATCH!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 02:23:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=89.157.139.225; posting-account=L3mulQoAAADsXVjCD5rM6Ap3Xy0U3ckB NNTP-Posting-Host: 89.157.139.225 References: <4d9fa282-830d-42f7-a3bf-ba127cb2ad06o@googlegroups.com> <8332f305-299f-45d7-9f9d-2cad924b24d8o@googlegroups.com> <9d941aca-2eb6-4f35-a346-c290c4666bdfo@googlegroups.com> <76def2a5-667c-4009-b3b9-f0cf1c13a51bo@googlegroups.com> <3b5b2360-684c-4149-8662-98b53319cf94o@googlegroups.com> <471e2c4a-192f-443d-8247-c06d56ab2092o@googlegroups.com> <9ea97f89-8912-4c59-a1c2-2aa71107902do@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <7cfac8d2-7b24-4a32-86fd-d6c434e75f98o@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ada on Apple's new procesors From: Fabien Chouteau Injection-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2020 09:23:29 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:59286 List-Id: On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 6:46:48 AM UTC+2, Optikos wrote: > On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 5:40:13 PM UTC-5, Simon Wright wrote: > > Optikos writes: > >=20 > Gee, either > a) we all concurrently pulled it out of thin air via overactive imaginati= on as you imply, > or > b) the following extant events & facts transpired: The answer is a). > it is quite clear that the intended reading of README.md is referring to = the Apple-Apple-Appleness of bitcode since bitcode was announced at Apple's= Worldwide Developer Conference in June 2015 as a key technology related to= App Store submission and downstream proprietary processing by Apple post-s= ubmission: >=20 It seems like you focus too much on details of a simple README. LLVM bitcod= e is sometimes used to talk about the general LLVM IR. The example use case mentioned by the README are bringing more tooling to t= he Ada ecosystem, for instance with KLEE, or "connecting the GNAT front-end= to the LLVM code generator". It took time and effort to publish GNAT-LLVM on GitHub, and AdaCore had abs= olutely no obligation to do so. To be honest, I am personally a bit disappo= inted to see such a long discussion on what is allegedly not possible to do= with GNAT-LLVM (and was absolutely not possible before anyway), rather tha= n all the possibilities that GNAT-LLVM opens.