From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on ip-172-31-65-14.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Rubin Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: who needs types? Types makes code ugly. Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2022 15:16:46 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: <87fsk1obw1.fsf@nightsong.com> References: <66a25bd1-e92c-477a-95da-5d365a6967a2n@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="c3bc43b87f7e12045c10ff09e459e8ad"; logging-data="17184"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18P9sG+p04DURH5FBEOPsV/" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:HXVMkAeB3Hb8E11/AsmVf8Y7KFI= sha1:fTfiILJxS4HzUMgycjTyfZrwcdY= Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:63994 List-Id: dirk@orka.cs.kuleuven.be. (Dirk Craeynest) writes: > To conclude, I repeat below my earlier posting with more information > on, and pointers to, John's and Jeff's contributions: ... > I hope this helps. Yes, thanks, those references are useful for understanding the changes introduced in Ada 2022. I had thought the idea of a formal rationale was different: not just to explain the changes, but also to explain from an authoritative standpoint why the decisions were made. I don't know how important rationales traditionally been in the Ada world. But, Ada 2012 introduced a much larger set of changes than Ada 2022 did. So I can understand if a rationale was more important in 2012 than in 2022. I guess if higher-end Ada community thought that a 2022 rationale was necessary, they would have required it and funded it. As a not-so-serious user or wannabe user, I don't think I need it, but that's just me. I do notice long after reading "Ada Distilled" that most of the discussions on this group about technical aspects of Ada still baffle me. So I think a more advanced online tutorial would do some good. I believe the current Ada Wikibook is nice for beginners but doesn't cover more advanced topics all that well.