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From: Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Subject: Re: Ada: A beginners experience
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 17:31:50 -0700
Date: 2018-07-14T17:31:50-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fu0lqqyx.fsf@nightsong.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: pid6oh$1v7d$1@gioia.aioe.org

"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> writes:
> As if you didn't have to import modules in Python. If this example
> shows anything then bad design of Python where standard modules get
> special treatment. In Ada all packages are same. The package Standard
> is minimal.

Only one standard Python module ("builtins") is imported automatically.
You have to import the rest.  I think there is a way to suppress the
automatic import of the builtins module.  Haskell similarly has the
standard Prelude, OCaml has something similar, etc, fwiw.  

> While Python code is incredibly ugly and impossible to understand
> being counterintuitive, cryptic and lacking any regularity.

I haven't found this most of the time.  Python has some weird and
confusing features like metaclasses, that might or might not be badly
designed, but that are usually irrelevant for beginners.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-07-15  0:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-14  2:36 Ada: A beginners experience blakemichael073
2018-07-14  2:53 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-14  3:53   ` blakemichael073
2018-07-14 11:26     ` Brian Drummond
2018-07-14 12:11       ` blakemichael073
2018-07-14 13:27     ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-14 14:57     ` Jere
2018-07-16 21:38       ` Maciej Sobczak
2018-07-20 12:00         ` Jere
2018-07-20 21:05           ` Maciej Sobczak
2018-07-21  8:25             ` Simon Wright
2018-07-14  3:36 ` Paul Rubin
2018-07-14  4:08   ` blakemichael073
2018-07-14  6:21     ` Paul Rubin
2018-07-14  8:30       ` Rene
2018-07-14 15:10         ` Paul Rubin
2018-07-14 15:13   ` Jere
2018-07-14 15:42     ` Paul Rubin
2018-07-14 16:01       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-14 19:05         ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-07-15  0:31         ` Paul Rubin [this message]
2018-07-14 15:55     ` Simon Wright
2018-07-15 22:44     ` Bill Findlay
2018-07-16  1:17       ` Jere
2018-07-16  1:41         ` Paul Rubin
2018-07-16  2:01         ` Bill Findlay
2018-07-16  2:46       ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-16 15:54         ` Bill Findlay
2018-07-14  8:01 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-14 12:20   ` blakemichael073
2018-07-14 13:15     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-14 14:15       ` blakemichael073
2018-07-14  8:19 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-07-16  9:25 ` fabien.chouteau
2018-07-17  1:18   ` blakemichael073
2018-07-17  1:44     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-07-17 12:59     ` fabien.chouteau
2018-07-20  1:08     ` Philip Munts
2018-07-23  4:04       ` blakemichael073
2018-07-23 13:15         ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-07-26 10:20   ` fabien.chouteau
2018-07-16 17:36 ` G. B.
2018-07-16 18:43   ` Simon Wright
2018-07-16 19:08     ` Paul Rubin
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