From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Rubin Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Beginning Ada Programming, by Andrew T. Shvets (2020) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 14:42:46 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: <87imhp5161.fsf@nightsong.com> References: <87muca3vgd.fsf@nightsong.com> <57d49047-0a61-4d13-8822-d004732a3acc@googlegroups.com> <007895f7-b923-4267-9801-d0caaaa30838@googlegroups.com> <41ef6a77-3b14-43ff-b6ae-510000a33ad4@googlegroups.com> <877dy5j4h7.fsf@nightsong.com> <104195c8-c162-4d0c-a600-d2a2d233bf03@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="d87d2b12ec69d23ac90f6b3799df251f"; logging-data="10032"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19eYKGE6TGy9hTcwjNTJZ3J" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:yYNYeHYeS+qE54ZGRrHNF4Vfwlk= sha1:Ujca+ZfBp/+ebbSyhlHFG9qfx0k= Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:58481 Date: 2020-04-23T14:42:46-07:00 List-Id: Optikos writes: > 1) Someone who is a beginner at programming in any imperative > programming language. This is what I meant by beginner ;) > 2) Someone who is versed to an adequate degree of proficiency in > another imperative programming language and who is now learning Ada as > a 2nd … Nth imperative programming language added to their repertoire. Yes, this is imho a more suitable audience for Ada. > Conversely, category #1's time has unfortunately passed is by in 2 > phases I'm not sure what you mean by this: imho, either category #1's time never existed, or else it existed once but is now thankfully (not unfortunately) in the past. IMHO a beginner language should have automatic memory management, and its basic integer datatype should be unbounded aka bignums. Python is like this, though it has its own deficiencies.