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Gautier write-only address <gautier_niouzes@hotmail.com> writes:
> Perhaps source code was not *officially* released but you find it
> easily on the Web (for TP 6.0) :-).

Very interesting!  I did find what I think you are referring to, though
it is much larger than the old versions.  It's weird that it looks like
an official Borland release of some kind (complete with postal address
for tech support).  I didn't realize they had ever let that out.
Anyway, thanks for the tip!  The compiler proper seems to be about
25KLOC of almost entirely uncommented assembly code, plus Pascal
headers.  I will see if I can understand any of it.  I wonder if it
might be a disassembly, or otherwise obfuscated by Borland (by stripping
comments) for purpose of the release.

Sometime back I looked rather hard for the source code of TP (any
version) and I found something claiming to be TP source code, but was
actually something like a Windows wrapper.  But this is different.

I think someone might have also published a disassembly of a released TP
2.0 binary, but I'm more interested in the original source as a
historical artifact, rather than something to actually use and run in
this day and age.

The comparable and amazing for the era BDS C was released as source code
here:

https://www.bdsoft.com/resources/bdsc.html