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Olivier Henley <olivier.henley@gmail.com> writes:
> Sometimes, on that subject, telling people they should know better is
> really hard to resist.

It would be reasonable to spend a while examining the Carbon spec,
identify any issues, and post technical criticism and suggestions.

I myself don't understand what Carbon is supposed to accomplish that
Rust doesn't, or alternatively, if Carbon is supposed to be "Golang++"
or what.  Rust it seems to me is more modern than C++ or Ada 2012.
There are some proposals to adapt some of Rust's ideas into Ada 202x.
But that stuff confuses some people.  It could be that Carbon is a step
backwards.