dec ada for vax/vms 5.5

dec ada for vax/vms 5.5

[calliet gérard]

Hello,

I'm not an archeologist. Somewhere in the world they use VAX/VMS 5.5-H2, 
and for again a long time. I'll be retired when they'll stop the servers.

So I'm training new guys who will do the job.

I try to help them take the job as fun as possible.

We learn this year Dec ADA

I need :
- a distribution
- buying a license

Anyone knows where I can get these things?

Gérard Calliet

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Re: dec ada for vax/vms 5.5

[Shark8]

On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 9:40:48 AM UTC-6, calliet gérard wrote:
> 
> I need : 
> - a distribution 
> - buying a license 
> 
> Anyone knows where I can get these things? 
Try VMS Software:
https://vmssoftware.com/contact/

They're doing the port of OpenVMS to x86, and have a suite of software they're updating [IIRC they also have existing support contracts for VMS, so might know where to get it]; it would probably be good to call them and tell them your company would like Ada support in the port, too. 
(It certainly can't hurt to signal that there's interest there.)

Re: dec ada for vax/vms 5.5

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 09:52:31 -0700 (PDT), Shark8 <onewingedshark@gmail.com>
declaimed the following:

>On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 9:40:48 AM UTC-6, calliet gérard wrote:
>> 
>> I need : 
>> - a distribution 
>> - buying a license 
>> 
>> Anyone knows where I can get these things? 
>Try VMS Software:
>https://vmssoftware.com/contact/
>
>They're doing the port of OpenVMS to x86, and have a suite of software they're updating [IIRC they also have existing support contracts for VMS, so might know where to get it]; it would probably be good to call them and tell them your company would like Ada support in the port, too. 
>(It certainly can't hurt to signal that there's interest there.)

https://training.vmssoftware.com/student-license/
https://vmssoftware.com/community/community-license/

	No idea if the Ada compiler is installed. My prior employer was running
a version of VMS on some Windows server, no doubt via emulator -- after
replacing the ancient VAX systems. It was needed to support an ancient
(non-DEC) Ada cross compiler for 680xx processors. (Yes, the Boeing* 737
flies on 68040 CPUs <G>)

https://blog.poggs.com/2020/04/21/openvms-on-a-raspberry-pi/

	Unfortunately, I think /that/ free version of OpenVMS has been
discontinued.
"""
As you have commented, the hobbyist license program was terminated last
year and many people are now unable to use any system which required LMF
(VMS 5.0 and above). 
"""

http://www.vaxhaven.com/CD_Image_Archive

	But doesn't provide licenses to activate...



* Boeing is NOT the employer in question


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Re: dec ada for vax/vms 5.5

[calliet gérard]

Le 29/07/2021 à 18:52, Shark8 a écrit :
> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 9:40:48 AM UTC-6, calliet gérard wrote:
>>
>> I need :
>> - a distribution
>> - buying a license
>>
>> Anyone knows where I can get these things?
> Try VMS Software:
> https://vmssoftware.com/contact/
VSI does'nt do anything for VAX environments (alpha, itanium, x86 
(soon), yes, VAX, no). And HPE seems to have totally abandonned VMS.
> 
> They're doing the port of OpenVMS to x86, and have a suite of software they're updating [IIRC they also have existing support contracts for VMS, so might know where to get it]; it would probably be good to call them and tell them your company would like Ada support in the port, too.
THE Big Issue. I'm calling them since 2015, some other are calling them 
now. They hesitate. I think because the ratio: number of business cases 
/ investment is not so good.

(I'm myself involved on Ada on VMS : www.vmsadaall.org)
> (It certainly can't hurt to signal that there's interest there.)
>
Right



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Re: dec ada for vax/vms 5.5

[Emmanuel Briot]

> We learn this year Dec ADA 
> 
> I need : 
> - a distribution 
> - buying a license 
> 
> Anyone knows where I can get these things? 

You might consider contacting AdaCore (sales@adacore.com I believe). I remember that quite a number of things
were added to the GNAT compiler for compatibility with Dec Ada. The biggest difficulty is likely to be the build
process (and we have related discussions on some other thread in this forum), because Dec Ada's notion of systems
and subsystems is quite different from what GNAT does. But AdaCore has some experience on the subject

Emmanuel