From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,d8a2ac5ffb7cadfd X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: 8f27iw6z@canada.com (Tom) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: AdaWorld and AdaPower Date: 5 Nov 2004 15:51:34 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <97de285c.0411051551.1fd19ac5@posting.google.com> References: <2004110323220875249%david@bottoncom> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.42.245.33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1099698694 28301 127.0.0.1 (5 Nov 2004 23:51:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 23:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:6012 Date: 2004-11-05T15:51:34-08:00 List-Id: "stephane richard" wrote in message news:... > "David Botton" wrote in message > news:2004110323220875249%david@bottoncom... > > Here is how I think AdaWorld can and should become the Ada Community Site > > (perhaps you or others see more): > > > > * Current events that relate to the Ada community > *** This I've been thinking about already, a company that recently > discovered my website asked me to add their products in a "magazine" kind of > way about a week ago. And that got me thinking in that direction. Of > course not just for products, for anything that's going on :-). > > > > - Product Announcements > > > > Perhaps a form that would output press releases and announcements for Ada > > product releases, releases of new versions of code packages for reuse, > > etc. It could automatically send out a message to CLA, a list that people > > could join off of AdaWorld, and perhaps Team-Ada. I realize that there is > > a list at Ada IC, but very sadly it is focused on supporting ARA vendors > > and not the Ada community as a whole (although certainly this does so on > > many levels, but not in the capacity at hand). An AdaWorld open > > alternative for Ada PR stories / announcements would be a welcome addition > > to the Ada World :-) > > > *** Yeah, I see where you're getting here. I wasn't thinking exactly what to > put in, but I was thinking that something like that might be fun. I was > about to start asking around get an idea if this kind of thing could have a > potential interest. :-). it just wasn't this detailed in my head yet ;-). > *it was late for you when you wrote this, it's way too early for me right > now, not enough caffeine running through my veins yet :-). > May I make a suggestion instead of just product announcements is there any way to add reviews to the products. I thinking something like a article that compares and contrasts the new product with existing products. What would be also be helpful is if there were a way for current users to add their opinions to the end of the article. I am probably dreaming in technocolor but could the articles also include the prices of the products. Along the same line is there a way to get an article written that discusses all the major products in an product field. What I am thinking is an article that compares the major strengths and weaknesses for example of the ten most used Ada IDEs( including their compilers). Something like what CNET does when it compares groups of products. User feedback would also be useful here. If you did both the reviews of all the products and major evalution it would very helpful in showing the new comers how the products are actually evaluated. Another benefit would be to make it easier to find the lesser known but great products; because, they have a great possibility of being mentioned by users who are giving their opinions about the reviewed products. > > * Community Guide (as a guided tour) > > > > A step by step guide in a "tour" book format to getting started in the Ada > > community. > > Where to go for code for reuse. > > Where to talk about Ada and get help. > > The history of Ada > > Where Ada is going and where it has been > > Key things to try out in Ada that will make you want to stick with the > > language > > and much more > > Here I have a suggestion also how about articles by developers in the field. For instance, I would find it very interesting to see what programmers in the scientific and engineering arenas have to say about products needed or desired for doing numerical programming. Why were the particular IDEs and other programs used or desired. For also, I would like to see the opinions of the readers of the articles included. > > > > * Cool Factor Factory > > > > Ada needs to be cool. The very thing that has "killed" Ada can be what > > makes it the biggest "turn on". When I find a good geeky high schooler / > > CS1er around that I want to convert to Ada, I tell him using Ada via > > GNATCOM you can program missiles to fire from a word document (and that is > > a fact!). I tell him stuff like: > > > *** I think Ada is cool ;-). But yeah, I know what you mean here. I've > been saying it for a while, but people have a "software engineering" point > of view of Ada. In a way they're right and that's what makes the strength of > Ada, readability too of course, and many more things. GNAVI when completed > I think will definitaly help with the cool part. Being Ada's reply to > Delphi, the outside world will havbe something they know (delphi) to compare > the reply (GNAVI) And I think we need more this in and out of Ada to > compare Ada. > > > Ada - Military Grade Programming! > > If you can get it to compile man, you just about know its goin' to work. > > Check this out (examples shown) > > > > I am not going to sell the M$ generation on reality, damn M$ alread made > > us believe bugs are features too :-) Vote for, Bug rights now! > > > *** Yeah, sure it's a blue screen, but you gotta admit, it's the best > looking blue ya ever saw, that was planned in the development right? ;-). > > > If I could see straight (its getting late), I'd write more, but I think > > the picture is clear as to the need for an Ada community site. AdaWorld > > has already started to dance in that space, the other sites that exist are > > too focused and/or not maintained. I think and would want to be part of an > > AdaWorld taking the lead in this space. > > > *** There will be daylight tomorrow too, we got time to talk :-). Me I'm > still waiting for daylight to start showing itself (early like I said). But > yeah, There's room for Ada World to grow. And so far, what you said here, > even if it was late last night, fits Ada World's Futur plans pretty good. > So we can talk about here (maybe get opinions and ideas from people here) to > push us in the right direction and well then start walking ;-). > > > My 2 dollars and 43 cents :-) > > > I'm canadian, so this was my 3 dollars and 69 cents :-). > > > David Botton > > http://www.adapower.com > > > > > Stephane Richard > "Ada World" webmaster > http://www.adaworld.com Just an another Canadian's opinions, tom