From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a37:a2d3:: with SMTP id l202mr3308656qke.94.1589549021037; Fri, 15 May 2020 06:23:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aca:dfc5:: with SMTP id w188mr2054551oig.7.1589549020759; Fri, 15 May 2020 06:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!feeder5.feed.usenet.farm!feed.usenet.farm!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 06:23:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=47.185.215.60; posting-account=zwxLlwoAAAChLBU7oraRzNDnqQYkYbpo NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.185.215.60 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <9e6ac4b2-ae82-48d9-a509-a482cc0707c0@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Not to incite a language war but apparently the Corona lockdown was based on 13 year old undocumented C-Code From: Optikos Injection-Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 13:23:41 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:58691 Date: 2020-05-15T06:23:40-07:00 List-Id: On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 7:25:42 PM UTC-5, Olivier Henley wrote: > Wow! https://lockdownsceptics.org/code-review-of-fergusons-model/ >=20 > This is ugly, lol... and they give another go in C++. (facepalm) >=20 > For sure it would have fewer bugs or even no bugs in Ada. >=20 > 1. The modeling power (embedded clarity combined with capabilities/paradi= gms properly supported) of Ada has no equivalent. >=20 > 2. Nothing hard about making clean multithreading. >=20 > 3. Using object-oriented techniques for handling complexity while retaini= ng flexibility and reusability is Part 3 of John English, Ada 95: The craft= of object-oriented programming ... and any good undergrad software book wr= itten since 1996. >=20 > Other languages are underspecified, lack features uniformity, are plagued= by idiom trends, and the average Joes inevitably pile up their own party m= ess by arguing their right to express their style of programming, more ofte= n than not, under the auspice of a god syndrome lacking frugal taste.=20 >=20 > Ada just cuts the crap on all of these fronts while retaining all the cru= cial bits of something like C and C++, performance and low level hand reall= y. Is is that simple. >=20 > Governments should just force Ada on their workforce. The public pays and= therefore should be entitled to quality stuff that compounds. If you do no= t want to learn it, ... like you learned Python on Youtube, on the job for = the last 3 months, well you know where the door is. >=20 > Enough with the clowns... Clowns will dominate the pandemic-forecasting domain until we don't just pu= t up a 3-ring tent for the latest pandemic's circus coming to town each tim= e. Putting up a temporary tent on the spur of the moment for the circus co= ming to town is not how society runs anything else of significant impact: = investing, military defense, civilian government's constitutional responsib= ilities. To that end: Are there any government or NGO grants to which one or more respondents fro= m the Ada community could apply to submit (or better yet, receive grant fun= ding for) a competing Ada pandemic-forecasting model (or better yet multipl= e models written in Ada that focus on different sets of parameters and assu= mptions)? all the hurricane-forecast models by NHC of NOAA: https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/modelsummary.shtml The goal would be for humankind to have a plethora of competing pandemic-fo= recast models (some of which implemented in Ada) that somewhat resemble the= plethora of competing hurricane-forecast models with which we have become = familiar seeing plotted as spaghetti each hurricane to see where the prepon= derance is and which ones are suspect outliers that have applicability only= if their bizarre situation is triggered. example spaghetti plot of all the hurricane-forecast models by NHC of NOAA: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/AL11_current-980x735= .png Such interested parties might not be only the obvious ones (e.g., the WHO) = but also various militaries, hence the even stronger Ada tie-in.