From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 107f24,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-02 10:54:04 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.algonet.se!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!algonet!newsfeed1.funet.fi!newsfeeds.funet.fi!news1.spb.su!news.wplus.spb.ru!not-for-mail From: "Ruslan Abdikeev" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.functional Subject: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack. Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:54:29 +0400 Organization: WEBPlus Ltd. Message-ID: <9kc422$pes$1@news.wplus.spb.ru> References: <3B687EDF.9359F3FC@mediaone.net> <3B69901C.23EAF00@silver.jhuapl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: vr1.spb.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.wplus.spb.ru 996774786 26076 194.8.167.213 (2 Aug 2001 17:53:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.wplus.spb.ru NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Aug 2001 17:53:06 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11112 comp.lang.functional:7207 Date: 2001-08-02T17:53:06+00:00 List-Id: People, would you mind to do not cross-post to comp.lang.c++? Thank you in advance, Ruslan Abdikeev VR-1 Entertainment Corp. "Scott Ingram" wrote in message news:3B69901C.23EAF00@silver.jhuapl.edu... > Goran Larsson wrote: > > > > In article , > > Preben Randhol wrote: > > > > > Perhaps read it again. > > > > Why? > > > > The report clearly shows that you can have problematic software in > > any language. It was also ironic that it was a compiler generated > > range check on a value (that was not going to be used) that was the > > event that started the destructive chain of events. The management > > decision that any exception had to be due to hardware error (and > > warranted a shutdown) was _perhaps_ influenced by the belief that > > writing code in Ada resulted in bug free programs. :-) > > > > -- > > G�ran Larsson Senior Systems Analyst hoh AT approve DOT se > > I think Ed and Preben's point is that the code in question was > bug free...in the Ariane 4. I don't think any of us are naive > enough to believe that using language X or toolset Y will save > us from problematic software, but certain languages are better > at reducing certain kinds of errors. What the Ariane disaster > illustrates best is that even Ada can't overcome bad management > decisions. > -- > Scott Ingram > Vice-Chair, Baltimore SIGAda > System Development and Operational Support Group > Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory