From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-26 04:49:34 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!chcgil2-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news.binc.net!kilgallen From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Progress on AdaOS Date: 26 Aug 2001 06:47:21 -0500 Organization: Berbee Information Networks Corporation Message-ID: References: <9IFe7.12813$6R6.1221214@news1.cableinet.net> <9lghqu$ac6$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B7C3293.76F49097@home.com> <9lhefg$lgd$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B7D47F1.25D6FC78@boeing.com> <5ee5b646.0108171856.18631c4c@posting.google.com> <3B7F624B.7294D24F@acm.org> <9lr6je$5hj$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9ltoi7$4is$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B82789B.8D195045@home.com> <9ltuo8$70n$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B829450.879B0396@home.com> In article <9maa90$aik2@news.cis.okstate.edu>, David Starner writes: > Can you please trim the message a little more? > > On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:34:35 -0500, Gary Scott wrote: >> MVS surely qualifies as surpassing VMS in total numbers of users, we >> have several hundred thousands at my company alone (although some don't >> realize that they're using it because it's hidden behind a nifty GUI). >> Last estimate that I saw for VM was that there were 8 to 10 million >> users world wide (similar figures for OS/2). I'm sure that's declined >> (in both cases), but virtually every large company that has a mainframe >> in their accounting department has a VM system in addition to MVS or >> OS/390. But then, every OS survey I've seen conveniently discounts >> mainframe usage altogether. > > If it's hidden behind a nifty GUI, do they really count as users of > the OS? I mean, I use all sorts of OS's everyday hidden behind a > (not quite so nifty) GUI known as a web browser. But the OS on the > other side of that link concerns me not. If that nifty GUI is done > right, the OS behind it could change from MVS to Unix to NT to MacOS X > and the end user would never know. Under that rule, there are no Macintosh users.