From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a6b:c542:: with SMTP id v63-v6mr1310788iof.18.1531416432183; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:27:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aca:4787:: with SMTP id u129-v6mr660373oia.4.1531416431980; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.uzoreto.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!d7-v6no1731278itj.0!news-out.google.com!l67-v6ni1968itl.0!nntp.google.com!g2-v6no1720199itf.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:27:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4b5743b1-846c-4397-a096-af986c675363@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2a02:c7d:3c35:b000:325a:3aff:fe0f:37a5; posting-account=L2-UcQkAAAAfd_BqbeNHs3XeM0jTXloS NNTP-Posting-Host: 2a02:c7d:3c35:b000:325a:3aff:fe0f:37a5 References: <2048d6d6-04e2-4e2c-9483-e3769da59781@googlegroups.com> <4b5743b1-846c-4397-a096-af986c675363@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Kernel Syscall from Ada? From: Lucretia Injection-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 17:27:12 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:53779 Date: 2018-07-12T10:27:11-07:00 List-Id: On Thursday, 12 July 2018 16:27:39 UTC+1, Dan'l Miller wrote: > Acquiring a copy of the standard instead (e.g., borrowing it from an engi= neering library at a university) would permit a fairly easy cleanroom reimp= lementation directly from the standard. That re-implementation could provi= de Ada95, Ada2005, and Ada2012 personalities, perhaps going far beyond the = standard for Ada2012. But ultimately, the result is still an add-on layer = to the C-language syscall =E2=80=A6 If you do a search for that standard, you'll find some pdf's where they've = talked about removing bindings because Ada has the same functionality in th= e library; don't they realise that you need those interfaces to create thos= e api's in the Ada library?? > =E2=80=A6 I still think what would put Ada on the map via public fanfare = would be an Ada-centric distribution of Linux (or BSD Unix for that matter,= or both) that add a whole set of Ada-only syscalls in a new Ada-only sysca= ll table to put Ada on 100% equal footing as C for Linux programming. Not = even C++ has that. (What better way to compete with C++?) Ada should walk= confidently in through the front door. In all the POSIX.2 (C API) areas o= f Linux syscalls, the Ada syscalls perhaps should be the POSIX.5 (Ada thick= binding) verbatim (at least when in Ada95 mode). Possible, I've thought a bit about that today.