From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_05, XPRIO_SHORT_SUBJ autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,700e3c547aedfa54 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-03-21 08:03:25 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!supernews.com!news-x2.support.nl!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada? Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 12:39:41 -0500 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: References: <4ezc8.1103$48.60681@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com> <3c78167e.3219289@news.cis.dfn.de> <98104da8.0202270726.97da933@posting.google.com> <4519e058.0203191257.2f26d688@posting.google.com> <3C97EF08.1AFB3D05@greenlime.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1016645982 9707 136.170.200.133 (20 Mar 2002 17:39:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Mar 2002 17:39:42 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:21512 Date: 2002-03-20T17:39:42+00:00 List-Id: You're right - this isn't the forum for politics. a) Not all Ada jobs in the USA are in defense/government related projects - hence its up to the company in question as to whether or not they want to hire a foreign national & up to INS, et alia, to decide if you can get into the country and legally work. b) Not all defense/government related work that may be done in Ada is going to be classified, or classified at a level that precludes foreign nationals from holding those jobs. Hence, go back to "a" above. c) Some defense/government related work *is* going to be done at a classification level that precludes foreign nationals even if they do have work permits from INS, permenent resident status, etc. (Try getting a job as an airline baggage handler without citizenship these days. :-) d) Not all Ada work is done in the USA - in fact there might be reasons to suspect that Ada is more popular outside the US than in the land of its birth. So don't preclude the possibility of looking for Ada work wherever you live. e) In countries where Free Enterprise is not against the law, it is always possible to invent your own job. If you like working in Ada and have some notion of how you could create a business that would do that, you might be quite successful & have a job working with Ada at that point. You can do that in any place where you can identify a need & go about filling it. (BTW: If the object of the game is to get into the US, rather than simply to program in Ada, this is one method of gaining entry. That is to say, bringing a business into the US - or partnering in a business, etc.) MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com "Adrian Hoe" wrote in message news:3C97EF08.1AFB3D05@greenlime.com... > Ted Dennison wrote: > > > > > > The fact of the matter is that the USA is a *nation* of immigrants. > > Anyone who thinks we are somehow "against" the rest of the world > > doesn't really appreciate the situation. > > > I know, I know... This isn't the right place to talk about politics > here. But since Ted has posted his view, I just would like to comment. > :) > > Ted is right that USA is a land of freedom and a nation of immigrants. > There are many opportunities there if one is willing to leave his home > and come to USA! I think everyone in this world appreciate this > situation but disagree on USA political base. > > I have many many friends in USA, and that includes Americans, Jamaicans, > Germans, Malaysians!, Chinese and Vietnamese and even CLA. I like > America but I personally disagree her politically. (I am not a > politician, ok? This is just my personal point of view :) > > I had got a consulting job (doing Ada) in USA couple years back but I > did not take up the offer simply because it took too much hassle to get > a working visa. But that did not stop me doing Ada. With my free spirit > roaming and the current trend of globalization and with the Internet, > the world is equivalent, I think. > -- > -- Adrian Hoe > -- http://adrianhoe.com