From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a24:764f:: with SMTP id z76-v6mr4989423itb.11.1523887625325; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 07:07:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6217:: with SMTP id g23-v6mr651430otj.11.1523887624523; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 07:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!maths.tcd.ie!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!168.235.88.217.MISMATCH!feeder.erje.net!2.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!e130-v6no2327769itb.0!news-out.google.com!u64-v6ni4382itb.0!nntp.google.com!e130-v6no2327766itb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 07:07:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <878t9nemrl.fsf@nightsong.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=47.185.233.194; posting-account=zwxLlwoAAAChLBU7oraRzNDnqQYkYbpo NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.185.233.194 References: <1c73f159-eae4-4ae7-a348-03964b007197@googlegroups.com> <878t9nemrl.fsf@nightsong.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IEhvdyB0byBnZXQgQWRhIHRvIOKAnGNyb3NzIHRoZSBjaGFzbeKAnT8=?= From: "Dan'l Miller" Injection-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:07:05 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Received-Bytes: 1981 X-Received-Body-CRC: 778387415 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:51543 Date: 2018-04-16T07:07:04-07:00 List-Id: On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 12:36:03 AM UTC-5, Paul Rubin wrote: > "Dan'l Miller" writes: > > How will Ada use one base of programmers/software-engineers as a basis > > to move onto convincing another group of programmers/software- > > engineers of Ada's advantages? Or is the purpose of Ada to preach to > > its current choir without trying to fill the pews with new > > parishioners? > ... > Tim Sweeney's well-known talk "The Next Mainstream Programming > Language" conveys a similar idea: > > https://www.st.cs.uni-saarland.de/edu/seminare/2005/advanced-fp/docs/sweeny.pdf What an awesome fundamental approach to language design: focus first and foremost on the troublesome frequent use-cases. Customer first. Not unlike Ada83 with DoD/NATO as customer first back in the day.