From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 X-Received: by 2002:a37:a344:: with SMTP id m65mr1296683qke.114.1597902515357; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 22:48:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:ad4:4365:: with SMTP id u5mr1644774qvt.109.1597902515221; Wed, 19 Aug 2020 22:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!209.85.160.216.MISMATCH!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 22:48:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=203.59.21.214; posting-account=d51RWwoAAADvR-x0zYAtT9z3CRxT1eXo NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.59.21.214 References: <52baf1e5-f0a5-42be-acc7-75fb17fb6f4co@googlegroups.com> <5b2b3117-dd85-45ff-bbf6-0a1fa6364f76n@googlegroups.com> <2e77d5f6-3545-41e2-a378-2a98a8ed7cd6n@googlegroups.com> <7b0de654-32fa-4b78-88c9-8718f2dd2769n@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: AdaCore's survey regarding the future of GNAT Community Edition From: Roger Mc Injection-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 05:48:35 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:59756 List-Id: On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 5:11:36 AM UTC+10, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > On 19/08/2020 20:09, Andreas ZEURCHER wrote: > > > If multiple well-skilled people cannot build a GPL-licensed source code with the source code as provided and instructions as provided, wouldn't that be a black-&-white flagrant violation of the GPL? > What else you expect when GTK and Python are used? GTK is practically > impossible to bootstrap. Python is full of bugs and incompatibilities. > On top of that for some mysterious reason AdaCore decided to use config > scripts. No wonder it is a nightmare anywhere outside Linux. > > If you think that commercial code delivered in sources is any better, > you are wrong. Building from sources working out of the box is a rare > exception. Most vendors simply check out the code from the repository > and send it to you. They have no resources or desire to supply you with > a working toolchain tailored for your targets, nor have they necessary > knowledge anyway. > > -- > Regards, > Dmitry A. Kazakov > http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de Incredibly, Python seems to be the language of choice for "teaching" the now-defunct discipline of software development, even by leading universities as far as I can discover. Most of the rules of disciplined software development seem to have been discarded long ago. In particular, the maintainability aspect seems to have disappeared. Regards, Roger