From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,103b407e8b68350b X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-03 06:59:02 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!207.217.77.102!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Anybody in US using ADA ? Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 07:37:50 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.be.6f X-Server-Date: 3 Jan 2003 12:38:11 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32489 Date: 2003-01-03T12:38:11+00:00 List-Id: It depends. By "Hacker Community" I meant those who are developing and sharing software without some immediate commercial purpose in mind. Ada has its own hacker community that is putting out some software - just not enough of them to flood the world with something like Linux. If you can't get the commercial developers to use Ada because of their investment in existing technology, you get the "hackers" to build technology to surpass what is already there. I agree that there are trends in the larger "Hacker Community" that Ada does not fit in well with. But that doesn't mean it can't have some appeal in some other way to some segment of the world. When you say "The drive is to do more and more while saying less and less" I couldn't agree more nor do I think that is a bad thing. That's simply talking about "leverage" and if Ada concentrated on that a bit more it might start looking really attractive to others. I don't mean shorten the syntax. I mean provide big libraries so that a developer basically spends time patching together existing code rather than developing it all from bottom-dead-center. MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "I'd trade it all for just a little more" -- Charles Montgomery Burns, [4F10] ====================================================================== Kevin Cline wrote in message news:ba162549.0301030157.3147623d@posting.google.com... > > LOL. Look at the languages that have been adopted by the 'hacker > world' > over the past fifteen years: C++. Tcl/Tk. Perl. Java. Python. Ruby. > PHP. > The drive is to do more and more while saying less and less. Safety > is good, but expressiveness and compatibility with existing technology > (i.e. the Web, relational databases, and GUI) are the real drivers. OO > is still going strong, but functional programming is gaining > mindshare. > Compile-link-run is on the wane. > > Also, all these languages provide built-in associative containers. > Arrays are fine for small embedded systems, but not very useful > for database-driven text processing applications.