From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!paganini.bofh.team!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 14:11:00 -0500 From: Dennis Lee Bieber Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: How to get Ada to ?cross the chasm?? Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 15:11:02 -0400 Organization: IISS Elusive Unicorn Message-ID: References: <322f9b26-01de-4753-bb50-6ef2f3d993d8@googlegroups.com> <87a7th9pd1.fsf@nightsong.com> <87h8no1nli.fsf@nightsong.com> <874ljo1hvy.fsf@nightsong.com> <87vac4z2lh.fsf@nightsong.com> <87lgcszjdn.fsf@nightsong.com> <87sh6z1kkg.fsf@nightsong.com> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 X-No-Archive: YES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.68.179.11 X-Trace: sv3-YCN+UDqvWN+liTO6BhjQVy9+tjY4NKk6TG4z1PAAbx2M+oxLyWlDk6oWw6j8XxZBA3JeLP/nqeaW2xH!4XWX54NUJ+qtxm3dQZ7E3y3/FoXu69FX2+LBz2RfU+y6ejhHMfklMgyJVW5ybVaGJ4Dk0bOpsd1I!MFt3TMz24YPUxY40b/Ulsj8yJ0U= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2434 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:52202 Date: 2018-05-10T15:11:02-04:00 List-Id: On Thu, 10 May 2018 10:34:23 -0700, Paul Rubin declaimed the following: >about where to study the more advanced features. It's a huge language >and if "crossing the chasm" means getting everyone to read the 1000 page >(or whatever) ARM, then Ada is doomed. > Then Ada has been doomed since 1980: "Designed by committee" (so was COBOL and it lasted) "Too large" (and all these things like pre/post-conditions are just making it larger -- I have a strong suspicion that pre/post-conditions would be considered dead code to be removed from avionics software) "Compiler is too slow" (something wrong with one's software development practices when the compiler speed is of more concern than the lifetime of a correct application) -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/