From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,4368e7c7118de06c X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: rod.chapman@praxis-cs.co.uk (Rod Chapman) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: ICFP2004 results are in Date: 22 Sep 2004 16:32:06 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <4150C42D.9070009@acm.org> <4151957C.3030800@acm.org> <87acvifbyk.fsf@beeblebrox.rfc1149.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.1.224.98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1095895926 23256 127.0.0.1 (22 Sep 2004 23:32:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 23:32:06 +0000 (UTC) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:3975 Date: 2004-09-22T16:32:06-07:00 List-Id: "Ed Falis" wrote in message news: > I disagree. A refactoring editor is nice to have, but definitely not a > must to use agile methods. Remember, they didn't exist when XP was being > developed. FWIW, I'm here in Pittsburgh taking the SEI's PSP I course, which has daily programming assignments that must be completed. Pretty much everyone is using jazzy "modern" environments like Java, VB.Net, and VC++. I'm using SPARK, EMACS/GLIDE, SPARK Examiner, and GNAT Pro. Needless to say, I'm holding my own so far... :-) - Rod