In article <8h34o0dbc2h70ojvsst879nfkthko7suok@4ax.com>, Stefan L�rchner wrote: >How on earth do anglosaxons (or is it only Americans?) call their >numbers above one billion??? Realistically, it is now Americans and Brits (not all of whom are Anglo-Saxons!). There are still a few people like me who refuse to give utterance to the American versions, but if I used the British billion, I would confuse almost all of my compatriots. Sometime in the 1970s, the Treasury announced it would start using American billions, because all the numbers it wanted to talk about were of that order. That infected the rest of society. Confusingly, the French used to use the American system (they invented it both). In the (former) British and current German system, an n-illion is 10^(6*n) and and n-illiard(e) is 10^(6*n+3). In the (former) French and current American system, an n-illion is 10^(3*(n+1)). To be fair, the -illiard words have always been problematic in English, because they have an unnatural pronunciation. They are pronounced /'mili'a:d/, with a long final a, and (according to me) more or less equal stress on the first and last syllables, but if they were real English words (like billiard(s)!), they'd be pronounced /'milj@d/. "Million" and "milliard" would then be too similar. For this reason, I always say "thousand million". But that gets pretty tedious, and it's tempting to give up and use the American system! But I shall be strong. Frank, 10^42 is a lot easier in both speech and writing than either "septillion" or "tredecillion".