From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, PP_MIME_FAKE_ASCII_TEXT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 12014d,7134e36a23e57417 X-Google-Thread: 103376,aa463d25bcbdaa7 X-Google-Attributes: gid12014d,gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!proxad.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!lnewsoutpeer01.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewsinpeer00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!feed1.jnfs.ja.net!jnfs.ja.net!newsfeed.ed.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: jcb@inf.ed.ac.uk (Julian Bradfield) Newsgroups: misc.metric-system,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: decimal separator (international? Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:29:49 +0000 (UTC) Organization: School of Informatics, The University of Edinburgh Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: palau.inf.ed.ac.uk X-Trace: scotsman.ed.ac.uk 1099063789 5740 129.215.46.88 (29 Oct 2004 15:29:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@scotsman.ed.ac.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:29:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: jcb@inf.ed.ac.uk (Julian Bradfield) Xref: g2news1.google.com misc.metric-system:1416 comp.lang.ada:5875 Date: 2004-10-29T15:29:49+00:00 List-Id: In article , Erik Naggum wrote: >Excuse me for being precise, but a statement that pretends to be true >always but is actually only true some of the time, is entirely false: It Depends on your notion of truth. The statement "birds are flying creatures with two feathered wings" has a number of well-known exceptions, but is nonetheless true for useful meanings of "true". In any question of linguistic usage, taking a two-valued definition of truth is just pointless. Clearly "in computing, giga = 2^30" is not maximally true; but it's not plain false, if one takes plain false to mean the minimal truth value. (You weren't precise about what you meant by "plain", so I took the meaning that seemed most plausible.) >is /not/ true that �in computing�, giga = 2^30. The simple fact that a >lot of uses of �giga� in computing are 10^9, invalidates the statement >and its broad claim. Only if you think the broad claim was one of absolute maximal truth, which I don't. I might note that the specific counter example I gave is contentious: many people think that giga means (or should mean) gibi in disk capacities, and that manufacturers only use giga means giga in order to inflate their capacities.