From: "Dan'l Miller" <optikos@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Ada Distilled by Richard Riehle
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 19:41:22 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2018-07-27T19:41:22-07:00 [thread overview]
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On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 4:32:52 PM UTC-5, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> On 2018-07-27 22:38, Dan'l Miller wrote:
> > On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 3:07:21 PM UTC-5, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> >> - full MD
> >
> > Full multiple dispatch was added experimentally back in the day for Ada as part of the Ada9X exploratory contracts, by SRI iIRC.
>
> MD is a difficult problem with regard to separate compilation. I don't
> know how to solve it in a consistent way.
>
> But the language design goal should be that any operation declared
> publicly must have all arguments and results controlling or class-wide.
> No contravariance. No type-specific operations.
http://www.stroustrup.com/multimethods.pdf
Above is an interesting research report (and survey of the 2007 then-state of the art) from C++world on this topic of how to efficiently implement openmultimethods. (Ada95 fortunately chose a variant of open methods for the syntax of single-dispatch, which should extend quite nicely to openmultimethod syntax, whereas C++ with openmultimethod feature would need to graft on a foreign-language-feeling Ada95-esque syntax.)
Cutting to the chase scene:
A) they seem to drop breadcrumbs per compilation-unit that are then stitched together in the linker to then author the (dense?) multidimensional array in one fell swoop,
instead of
B) each compilation-unit contributing its portion fully-formed in situ in the one multidimensional dispatch array.
I am not understanding how the Chinese-remaindering alternative design is better in •any• metric at all (e.g., smaller memory footprint? but why the N/A in the table in §7.2?), unless their multidimensional dispatch array was sparse (for no good reason) instead of dense.
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2018-07-15 18:09 Ada Distilled by Richard Riehle rabbibotton
2018-07-16 1:02 ` Shark8
2018-07-21 6:07 ` Randy Brukardt
2018-07-26 0:42 ` rabbibotton
2018-07-26 20:17 ` Shark8
2018-07-26 21:10 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-07-27 3:01 ` Paul Rubin
2018-07-27 14:32 ` rabbibotton
2018-07-27 20:18 ` Paul Rubin
2018-07-27 17:02 ` Shark8
2018-07-27 14:30 ` rabbibotton
2018-07-27 17:11 ` Shark8
2018-07-27 18:52 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-27 20:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-27 20:38 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-27 21:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-28 2:41 ` Dan'l Miller [this message]
2018-07-28 7:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-28 15:01 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-28 15:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-28 16:05 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-08-06 19:33 ` Vincent
2018-08-06 22:01 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2021-12-09 11:13 ` Kevin Chadwick
2018-07-27 21:34 ` Shark8
2018-07-27 22:16 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-28 3:52 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-28 7:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-27 20:35 ` Paul Rubin
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