From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a6b:9386:: with SMTP id v128-v6mr362291iod.27.1530693445765; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 01:37:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aca:c744:: with SMTP id x65-v6mr252309oif.2.1530693445587; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 01:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed9.news.xs4all.nl!85.12.16.69.MISMATCH!peer02.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer02.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!d7-v6no1471204itj.0!news-out.google.com!z3-v6ni1650iti.0!nntp.google.com!d7-v6no1471203itj.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 01:37:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=194.39.218.10; posting-account=3cDqWgoAAAAZXc8D3pDqwa77IryJ2nnY NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.39.218.10 References: <856189aa-fa00-4960-929e-174f352310ad@googlegroups.com> <2718c8d4-5f35-4fd8-a1aa-1e60069a7a5d@googlegroups.com> <39fce60c-9f56-42fb-b679-fa08810b00ee@googlegroups.com> <3701bf07-89a5-4cb0-a704-5aebb589ca79@googlegroups.com> <2f5e4ce0-94e8-4b94-9da7-045ec90a9b22@googlegroups.com> <18554067-1382-4b43-a832-2d27aa5117d7@googlegroups.com> <8dc19505-b68a-403c-a164-f1de1864f3f1@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Teaching C/C++ from Ada perspective? From: Marius Amado-Alves Injection-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 08:37:25 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 2472 X-Received-Body-CRC: 681921765 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:53565 Date: 2018-07-04T01:37:25-07:00 List-Id: "Ada specifications do not utilize primitive header-file textual inclusion = mechanisms." (Miller) "They do, they are just a little bit smarter in how they do it by forcing n= ames to be declared within packages." (Sobczak) I very much doubt Ada does mere textual inclusion, and this is a world of d= ifference between the languages. Ada has *semantical* devices for programmi= ng in the large. Last time I looked C and C++ dont. Other issues provoked b= y mere textual inclusion include polluting *every* unit with #ifndef X #define X ... #endif This "feature" alone makes any programmer of good taste refuse the language= .