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Subject: Re: GtkAda for GTk4?
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On Sunday, 13 February 2022 at 17:46:09 UTC+1, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> On 2022-02-13 16:32, Andreas Almroth wrote:=20
>=20
> > Looking at the excellent support for GTK in GtkAda over the past many y=
ears, which I have enjoyed using, I was looking for (aka googling) referenc=
es to any initial thoughts/work on having GtkAda to also support GTK4.
> Well, knowing GTK's disastrous history it cannot be "also", it must be=20
> either 3 or 4. GTK 4 breaks basically everything one could ever think of.=
=20
>=20

True, their rationale is it makes it better :-)

> To me new features in GTK 4 do not look worth changing the API again,=20
> not even useful, just fancy stuff. It seems that GTK team keep on=20
> breaking the API rather out of fun than necessity. Instead of hardening=
=20
> the code. GTK 3 is still buggy as hell.=20
>=20

Yes, when logging, one tend to get endless log entries on things that shoul=
d not happen, but the application tends to functions, and one has learnt to=
 work arounds the usual issues.

> Of course, at some point one will have to migrate, but how about sitting=
=20
> GTK 4 over and going straight to GTK 5? Unless they lose remaining users.=
..

Well, they might, but it is still based on C, which is easier to interface =
to from Ada, than say C++ (which I have found cumbersome). Most other GUI f=
rameworks are based on C++, for instance QT. QTAda is as far as I know not =
maintained (I haven't seen much in a very long time).


> > I know, GTK4 has only been "out" for little over a year, but it would b=
e interesting to know if anyone considering doing this. I would be glad to =
participate, although with limited know-how of the inner workings of GtkAda=
, but at least testing perhaps.
> GtkAda is maintained by AdaCore, so it is them to ask.=20
>=20

I could try my luck with them :-)

Thanks
/A

> --=20
> Regards,=20
> Dmitry A. Kazakov=20
> http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de