From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a24:2fc8:: with SMTP id j191-v6mr6204516itj.27.1531703864156; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 18:17:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aca:4787:: with SMTP id u129-v6mr3405993oia.4.1531703863783; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 18:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!85.12.16.68.MISMATCH!peer01.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer01.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!d7-v6no4825431itj.0!news-out.google.com!l67-v6ni5116itl.0!nntp.google.com!g2-v6no4814369itf.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 18:17:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0001HW.20FC05B4019F60EC700007BBE2CF@news.individual.net> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=71.171.111.51; posting-account=QF6XPQoAAABce2NyPxxDAaKdAkN6RgAf NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.171.111.51 References: <1d3743b1-1a36-429d-92c7-9ae0e7c16e63@googlegroups.com> <87fu0m7ak0.fsf@nightsong.com> <6febe5d6-0339-4da5-afe5-9af4e2255597@googlegroups.com> <0001HW.20FC05B4019F60EC700007BBE2CF@news.individual.net> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ada: A beginners experience From: Jere Injection-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 01:17:44 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Received-Bytes: 2322 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3480110307 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:53833 Date: 2018-07-15T18:17:43-07:00 List-Id: On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 6:44:06 PM UTC-4, Bill Findlay wrote: > On 14 Jul 2018, Jere wrote > > > On Friday, July 13, 2018 at 11:36:51 PM UTC-4, Paul Rubin wrote: > > > This won't be a popular viewpoint here but IMHO Ada isn't a great choice > > > as a first language. [...] > > > > [...] The type system (the big draw for me to Ada) is actually very streamlined. [...] > > > > None of this is beginner friendly though obviously. > > I disagree very strongly with the idea that Ada is not a good beginners > language, and I > do so as a result of the experience of introducing an Ada-based CS1 course in > 1996. > I never said that about Ada. In the context of my reply, trying to get a full Ada environment working on a board that doesn't already have one is not a beginner friendly project (and that is not limited to just Ada). I personally think Ada, as a language, is a great for beginners.