From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on ip-172-31-65-14.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_50,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Received: by 2002:ae9:e903:0:b0:6ba:e5aa:d59e with SMTP id x3-20020ae9e903000000b006bae5aad59emr1256375qkf.214.1661552339195; Fri, 26 Aug 2022 15:18:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a5b:790:0:b0:671:5d18:3a3 with SMTP id b16-20020a5b0790000000b006715d1803a3mr1688086ybq.169.1661552339028; Fri, 26 Aug 2022 15:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!border-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2022 15:18:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8735di1y6a.fsf@nightsong.com> Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=109.231.124.168; posting-account=MRPdDAoAAADUJmZVjnYaoafXFMadSeY1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 109.231.124.168 References: <993af397-b615-44e7-ae8d-ec706f9b6098n@googlegroups.com> <5f819cdd-e763-4a96-aed5-545d57edac23n@googlegroups.com> <877d2u21ps.fsf@nightsong.com> <8735di1y6a.fsf@nightsong.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Carbon From: Olivier Henley Injection-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2022 22:18:59 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:64220 List-Id: On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 5:40:15 PM UTC-4, Paul Rubin wrote: > Olivier Henley writes: > > I guess my real point was, the guy is willing to take the heat, > > bluntly asking questions I definitely share. > It was possible to make the exact same points more neutrally. Beyond > that though, I didn't see evidence that the guy had looked at Carbon in > any detail. The criticisms were purely of C++, so I would consider that > a low-effort post. And the part about abandoning Carbon was dismissive > toward the whole Carbon project. The Carbon github site is surely the > wrong place for that. Agree. Nevertheless, I also understand the upset about the dismissal of the cultural programming landscape, of what happened since 1983. Sometimes, on that subject, telling people they should know better is really hard to resist. Do not get me wrong, I know it is not a fertile way, but I will not throw rocks at the guy who decided to spin a round either. I sincerely do not believe in such a fragile society.